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Hard to see Allen starting for some time. Anything can happen but remember at every level he has played at smaller schools, lower level comp). Small town HS. Then small JUCO. Then WYO. This will be a big adjustment.

Bingo

Like one man said "I want Winners". I agree with that. I dont think its a ll or nothing argument. But I do think it is telling about a guy especially a QB. It means something to know how to win, be used to winning, to hate losing. Allen by all accounts has been on mediocre teams in JC and College. Even in High School he did not dominate. Especially telling was in his Sr year the best team they played beat them twice. Both times he was awful. Like less than 100yd awful. He has thus far always been bad against good competition.

Time for the classic - then dont read about it or post back. You dont have to be interested in discussing it but obviously some people do. Just like if there was a post on Colton Schmidt and his off season work outs I could care less. So I dont read and dont reply. Move on to something you are interested in.

Wentz won two championships in college didnt he?

Newton was a top recruit in the nation. Allen not so much. Newton went 14-0 and was a beast in the best conference in football. Allen was mediocre in one of the worst.

Star - Star Tolbert - Tolbert Benjamin - Benjamin On and on

What is hugely missing is the level of competition. Who and where they played. They played on and against the best teams in the county. They did not play at a JC and have those numbers. They won at a high level. Huge difference.

Pass rush, LB and CB depth still a concern.

These guys likely are not on the roster...

Says who? He showed this when?

College vs the Pros. The NFL has so much more speed you cant just out run people to the outside.

He has 2-3 of these games in his ~50 starts but ok...

Special teamer

I could care less about the name and more about the position. Is a CB and S the biggest needs at this point?

Seriously? Do they just have this thing on auto draft?

Jones or WR

sucks

At 154 and 166 would love it

Crosby or WR please

One of them will be there: OL Crosby Bozeman WR Burnett ESB Cain Lasley

Usually you have heard of guys because thy are good...

Dont like it with the guys on the board.

Crosby still there. Me thinks: Crosby - OL H Hill - CB D Hamilton - WR D Cain - WR J Lasley - WR Ballage - RB J Demby - OL W Richardson - OL

JR College Stats: DATE OPPONENT SCORE COMP ATT PCT YDS Y/A TD INT SAC YDS Sep 6 Mendocino W, 37-16 - - - - - - - - - Sep 13 at San Jose L, 41-36 2 7 28.6% 26 3.7 0 1 0 0 Sep 20 Contra Costa L, 43-38 1 6 16.7% 20 3.3 0 0 0 0 Sep 27 Gavilan W, 44-33 5 16 31.3% 108 6.8 1 0 0 0 Oct 4 at Fresno City L, 49-44 16 25 64.0% 275 11.0 3 1 5 38 Oct 18 at West Hills Coalinga L, 48-43 22 45 48.9% 294 6.5 5 2 6 22 Oct 25 Cabrillo W, 45-10 19 31 61.3% 317 10.2 4 0 0 0 Nov 1 at Merced W, 45-40 28 47 59.6% 470 10.0 7 0 0 0 Nov 8 Hartnell L, 28-24 13 35 37.1% 241 6.9 2 0 7 38 Nov 15 at Monterey L, 43-38 21 47 44.7% 304 6.5 4 1 5 59 His JR College Stats, his college stats. Yes stats are not everything. But I get concerned when a guy does not dominate against weak competition. Playing in that JUCO league he should have lit it up. Playing at Wyo he should have lit it up. Passing Rushing Receiving Tackles Fumbles Rk Year Date School Opponent Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Solo Ast Tot Loss Sk FR Yds TD FF 17 2017 2017-09-02 Wyoming @ Iowa L 23 40 57.5 174 0 2 84.0 8 -10 -1.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 18 2017 2017-09-09 Wyoming Gardner-Webb W 22 32 68.8 328 2 0 175.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 19 2017 2017-09-16 Wyoming Oregon L 9 24 37.5 64 0 1 51.6 8 25 3.1 1 1 2 2.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 20 2017 2017-09-23 Wyoming Hawaii W 9 19 47.4 92 1 0 105.4 6 17 2.8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 21 2017 2017-09-30 Wyoming Texas State W 14 24 58.3 219 3 0 176.2 8 12 1.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 22 2017 2017-10-14 Wyoming @ Utah State W 18 26 69.2 208 1 1 141.4 16 36 2.3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 23 2017 2017-10-21 Wyoming @ Boise State L 12 27 44.4 131 1 2 82.6 18 62 3.4 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0.0 0.0 0 0 24 2017 2017-10-28 Wyoming New Mexico W 16 28 57.1 234 4 0 174.5 4 20 5.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 25 2017 2017-11-04 Wyoming Colorado State W 10 20 50.0 138 0 0 108.0 12 60 5.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 26 2017 2017-11-11 Wyoming @ Air Force W 8 11 72.7 70 1 0 156.2 4 -15 -3.8 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 27 2017 2017-12-22 Wyoming N Central Michigan* W 11 19 57.9 154 3 0 178.1 8 -3 -0.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0