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And another reference 19 points in 4 quarters is 5+ points below league average and that 375 normalized to 4 quarters equates to 300 yards in a game, only 5 teams averaged under 300 a game. Houston averaged 363 per game - so we were pretty spot on with an extra quarter

In the “collapse” they allowed 22 points in 3 quarters which is about average play for this league (24 and change across 4 being average). They also had a HUGE stop to get us the ball and a chance to win at the end of regulation, in a position they shouldn’t have been put in. It’s definitely a step down from pitching a shutout the first half but if the need is to shut out good opponents there’s a problem. they were not perfect but the step back from GREAT, to relatively average, shouldn’t be the focal point of the discussion about what went wrong when our only TD In 5 quarters came on a busted coverage on a trick play. the defense missed a few steps in the dance but wasn’t bad overall. The long conversion is an ugly play to point but perfection isn’t the expectation. The offense stepped on toes, fell a few times and soiled themselves in the end.

I hope we never see him bail backwards on a blitz on the edge of fg range, lateral a ball randomly, or heave it to a FB in double coverage- and those are just the exceptionally bizarre choices.

im not arguing it’s good, but also that it only goes so far to argue they haven’t tried to upgrade it either. It needs more pieces but the investment isn’t neglectful. Which ties back to the question on whether it happens. I think they over invest this year and it spikes a bit but we will see. And that doesn’t speak to whether they can get more talent out of less resources once the roster matures out of rookie deals for so many key spots.

but that’s the problem- wins shouldn’t erase them. The first half wasn’t stellar ball, he played decent and got away with a few errors that could’ve been huge.

My point wasn’t those guys playing well enough, it’s that we can only hide the offense behind “not enough resources” so much. they have spent high picks and free agent dollars there. Not as much but it’s not a neglected wasteland that shouldn’t have expectations attached to them.

honestly- I hope they don’t dwell on the end of game. He must get it and if he doesn’t you aren’t reaching him.

they held a good offense to 5 points below league average through the end of regulation. im not saying they were GREAT but they had an above average game. our offense, played below average. And has more resources than sometimes given credit. Josh is a huge investment. Morse is big. Beasley and Brown aren’t insignificant spends. Singletary, ford and Dawkins are all high picks. I’d venture Knox, smith and kroft add up as above average investment at the position (Kroft paid average/slightly above starter money smith low starter/elite back up, and the rookie a day 2 pick). They need a WR1 but aren’t totally neglected. Our leader definitely led the way, doc. It’s ok to say the end wasn’t great for anyone but was awful for someone

and yet, they’ve never gotten them out of line with the rules. A relatively simple formula

Are you trying to imply that excuses his play?

we gave up 2 touchdowns in 3 quarters after half time. This wasn’t an epic defensive collapse. It was an above average game from the unit. They shouldn’t have to be historically good at all times.

conventional wisdom IS that you get the stars AND depth right now. Pretty much every team with a young qb does it for a reason. for some reason a lot of our base prefers we remain modest and scrappy instead.

it’s been completely predictable as it’s a relatively simple system

plenty of us have been getting hammered for saying you need stars to win in this league for the duration of this regime. tre is a star on D and made a huge play. We need that guy that can get after the qb reliably in the biggest moment, the pass catcher, and hopefully Allen. we just burned one of our easiest opportunities to pair those stars with a great supporting cast.

that the alternative is ripping a bandaid that might hurt isn’t as convincing an argument as you seem to think. if someone doesn’t believe in Allen or McD, it doesn’t mean they have to deliver you a slam dunk alternate path to the championship. we will see. Lots of red flags, but also some reasons to be hopeful. A lot of teams can say similar. But you’re going to shred any plan given, because you don’t believe we are walking the wrong path. you aren’t asking for insight, you are asking for someone to volunteer to be a victim to your frustration

a lot to unpack there (Darnold a franchise qb?!?) but at its core- good teams beat bad teams and split with their peers. We are pretty close to that, if they can keep consistency. and while they weren’t perfect the D held a good Texans offense to below league average points with an extra quarter of play. While they had a signature flub play to point at they still did more than should be expected in this league and did it against a good team. this ones on the offense and contrary to popular opinion plenty of that lands on their first half performance too, not just the melt down.

you should re-evaluate some priorities in your life. its a shame but to let something you have no control over and that has no direct effect on your life carry that much weight is unhealthy Sven

you may as well ask who do you think has the next young franchise qb if the answers us, definitely. If not, we are in the spin cycle with the rest of them for the foreseeable future.

jokes aside, on that Cunningham hit he may have been and I was a little surprised they didn’t check him - though it’d take A LOT for the official to make that call

giving josh a lot of credit for being cool, calm, aware of the entire field and making calculated decisions during an absolute melt down. that guy isn’t your FB with 3 yards/game average. You let brown and beas make plays.

I know Allen was walking out like ain’t no thing after the run. It’s possible they gave him a “rush to the line and do this” instruction before the snap and he ignored it though. regardless, that sequence lands on him too for sure and is one of my knocks in his first half. A strong coach/qb VERY rarely see that sequence unfold like that and it’s not been rare that they flub it when the clocks ticking down It’s still a tough play to a guy you’ve kept inactive all year. With a timeout in your pocket there are plenty of ways that last 30 seconds okay out and that includes a solid 2 additional shots, and having the rest of the field available for plays instead of a spike and fast dart to duke

how they didn’t have two plays in to Allen there is beyond comprehension

does it give you pause that an official working his 21st(?) game of the season thought this was unique behavior for a returner in games he’s called?

I haven’t gone back to watch a replay, honestly. So it could be out of the norm. But of the reasons we lost, or conspiracies against us- I’ll have a hard time getting fired up on this one, pretty much no matter what.

Ultimately the Texans should score a pair of tds, and I don’t care if it’s the 3rd and 4th quarter or 2nd and 4th. They held a good offense to under league average points even through an extra quarter. the guys in defense weren’t perfect by any means but we are talking an above average day from a defense vs the offense not scoring a TD after the first drive and having a historic dumpster fire at the end