NoSaint

I wouldn’t say suspicious because all I suspect is they wanted a common sense solution to a clumsy, poorly regulated moment that the rule book is not well designed for. it was improper though.

what should be in the rule book? That tossing the ball is the same as kneeling?

disagree and frankly was making this point live in game. people leaned too heavy on outcome and not process in judging his first half. Up 16 points and no catastrophic outcomes with a couple nice highlights was enough for universal praise but there were several concerning plays he got away with. I’m not too proud to take some luck, as even the great ones get lucky bounces. But in evaluating his first half, yea, people were leaning too heavily on result to evaluate the actual play.

And more importantly that evaluating either only says so much about his HC potential

agreed. And my point was that without that bright line act this gets too messy. I’ll sleep fine, cause whatever, I get he was trying to end the play. But it was handled wrong and that sucks.

I still think better than average chance he suffered another concussion during the game, unfortunately hopefully wrong there

the thing not getting enough attention is the D standing strong there. Huge stop at the biggest moment. They messed up some stuff down the stretch but that stop deserves more credit then it has gotten here That first sentence is fantastic.

ultimately, it gets messy if you allow this correction. what if he walks up as if he’s handing it to the ref? What if he then takes off, or a defender gets there before he gets to the ref? Do you say he was clearly walking it to the ref? At what point does the whistle blow on such a play? When he looks at the ref? When he gets kinda close without running? there are specific protocols for a reason. I’m not terribly offended as I do agree his intentions were clear, so there’s a small piece that says “whatever” in the back of my head... But I don’t like one bit that they made the jump to assuming those intentions and adjusting the rules to accommodate. That’s very bad.

though it then rolls over to a replay system not equipped to handle a play like this. ruled a turnover and TD you get reviewed and the turnover is overturned. But is the illegal forward pass able to be called there on review? a totally unrelated football board I read for another team is actually much more slanted towards the refs having blown it.

yup- and you can toss a young guy in to grow in the system. Heaven forbid we end up with 4 solid guys.

Seeing you get here makes me so happy, John.

It certainly effected his play. In fact, more than it should have.

Any chump can create space. Getting 115% talent out of 100% spending is the skill, right?

allens zero TD passes puts him tied for last and behind a WR ? Very few demanding he goes but plenty that needs to be worked on

5 quarters of bend but don’t break does that

I nominate you to do it

to soon to joke that we have josh, and we just need a Drew now? ? keep the Texans out of fg range ?

plenty asking if Drew’s the guy and think SP is reckless It gets worse as the games matter more and margin of error is less. expectations aren’t going to be something you enjoy promo

they announced game over on the field VERY fast. There definitely wasn’t time to cue it back up. that said, by the standard all season they wouldn’t overturn it for that little even if they could have easily called it without controversy in the first place

throwing a flag on a scoring or turnover would be too but if that was a field ruling with no intervention from nyc you are right. Edit: actually it’d be a forward pass and penalty not a fumble on a challenge also not reviewable

throwing the flag is a penalty there

as a scoring play AND turnover McD can’t if arguing the letter of the rules you gotta know them

his coach called it out and it’s unreasonable to acknowledge his troubles here? he had an extra quarter against a bad defense and didn’t get it done in the air. He was a bigger issue than the defense.

In it’s simplest terms the defense finished above average but not perfect. The offense was below average. It’s not any kind of oddball slicing of stats or anything. It’s who we have been. It’s hard to expect the defense to always win. what were his passing stats through 5 quarters against one of the worst pass defenses in the league?

not sure but I think we’ve too quickly said not enough resources and outside of WR1, it’s absolutely not the story. our TE room is a great example with a FA getting average starter money, smith getting elite te2 money and a 3rd round pick. by definition we’d be above average investment at the position and... well... it’s not a strength.