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I don’t think it’s for lack of trying; he’s simply not good enough. Effort only gets you so far.

Absolutely. The odds of Josh getting injured the first few games are very slim. That would give whatever replacement time to learn the offense.

New stadium is on wheels.

If Bishop is smart, he will use this as motivation to get his *** into gear. This is your dream. Idk. I remember when Donald Jones won the Bills #1 WR spot at one point. That was the most pathetic position battle I’ve ever seen.

Can you imagine this place if we lose week 1 like they did week 4 last year?

Actually only 20 yards a game more and I’d like to think having Josh Allen would’ve made up that little 20 yard difference. It’s really impossible to prove who is better. Like I said I have a preference for bigger possession WRs. I saw both in their prime and I just love the tenacity Moulds played with. He was a physical freak

But that was with Dorsey. By week 12 of 2022 everything was a mess on offense. Brady - even the chemistry with Diggs was off. Everyone was adjusting so I’m not going to just say Davis was THE problem. I think if they keep 6 WRs Gabe is the guy that brings something to the table only Keon has and that’s blocking. All the other guys are the same. Don’t hate the idea really. Could also PS Gabe. He plays when Samuel misses inevitable time. Coleman, Davis Shakir, Samuel Palmer, Moore, Shavers

I like the D coach mentioning Josh has be on the field in 3 downs or less, our 3rd down defense was atrocious last year.

You could tell Josh wanted to win that so bad

That's me every time I see a highlight of the Norwood kick. McDermott is pretty milquetoast and not a very inspiring speaker, but it hasn't seemed to matter before. I think that element of coaching might be overrated at the professional level.

I’m gonna say yes. Cut the QBs, the safeties and Tre. No need to field a full team if they’re all just gonna suck. Oh yeah get rid of the coach too, we’ll just wing it from here. Anyone is better than what we have, even if his name is nobody. Great ideas! 😞

Best episode so far by far. Shows our ass kickn. Will be interesting to see how our team responds. Hard knocks to blame? Too worried about being funny and not enough slober knocking?

Rebellion has died so I don’t think the anti-Bills contrarians are as common. People these days go along with every trend. Younger generations seem to all act the same, there aren’t the many different groups/cliques we had growing up. There used to be more ways to be an individual, but influencers have ruined that. With that said, choosing to root against Buffalo is a lame form of rebellion.

I'm fairly irritated that the Bills didn't end up with Dolac. I don't know if they tried signing him after the draft but they could have made it a moot point by taking him instead of Kaden Prather. I understand the team had a need at WR but they also had a need at LB.

Things don't apply generically to all teams. McD relies heavily on his safety tandem. Porter/Hyde injuries and aging have been a major hurdle that McBeane haven't been able to get over. If McD can take any old cerebral 7th round safety and turn them into one of the best (active)safety tandes the league, and our best safety tandem in franchise history, then he's welcome to sprinkle that magic dust again at anytime. But until then it's held this defense back and it's a vital position group for the team.

Yeah makes sense. It seems like Robbins has maybe turned a corner here, he’s looked pretty good

Not to be a drama queen, I hope there isn’t something fishy going on. Seems like dudes aren’t buying in.

Amazing how not a single player wore #17 during the entire decade of the 1990s...

Right when they started showing the footage of that game, my 4 year old says "Dad, maybe they'll win this time". I wish it worked that way lol.

I had a brutal day at work, I'll read the cliff notes to "cheer" me up tomorrow.

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Bishop played 12 snaps with a bunch of backups against starters, after missing a bunch of time with injury, was clearly shaking off some rust, and we all want to write him off before he even plays a snap in his 2nd year. Ok.

2023, we enter the year with a huge question mark behind Tre White. We try and fill void by drafting a first round CB. He doesn't work out, we trade mid year for Rasul Douglas. Douglas gives us one solid year, but his physical skills all but evaporated one year later. 2024, we enter the year with a hole at WR and Safety and soon to be CB. We draft Coleman and Bishop. Coleman doesn't immediately fill the void. Bishop does nothing. We bring in Amari Cooper in a trade. Reviews are mixed as to what he brought to the team, but he's not going to be here a year later. 2025, we enter the year with a hole at CB, S, and WR. We draft a CB. For the time being it doesn't look like we will get significant reps from that player. We keep "addressing" critical issues with the draft and we have yet to see any of those issues get better. We can say, sure, give these guys more time, but the reality is our strategy has not allowed for these guys to have time. We needed the production almost right away. I would be willing to bet Beane will trade for another aged vet at the deadline in one of these positions. Perhaps we don't look at a rookie filling that spot or street free agent and we won't keep finding ourselves in that position. But at the end of the day you just can't miss on this many players. If that's how this ends up going it will be a massive failure.

Sounds like some complacency settling in and McDermott tried to diplomatically approach it!

Not really. Minnesota used the pick we gave them for Diggs on Jefferson. Also Diggs is getting close to a HOF resume. He had 6 straight years of 1000 yards or better. Lead the league in yards and catches one season, had over 100 catches 5 times including 4 straight years, has over 10K in yards, 70 TDs and was an All-Pro twice. Right now he is 50th in yards for a career by a receiver/TE. Not a HOFer, but a couple of good seasons could get him very close.