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There’re been a lot of blue chip QB misses, just ask the Browns and the Jets. Those two franchises have spent numerous first round picks over the past 25 years or so on QBs they thought would be their ‘franchise QB’ to come up empty at each attempt. It took the Bills over 20 years after Jim Kelly’s retirement to find an elite signal caller. Finding ‘that guy’ is a GMs biggest challenge. If Beane never made another good decision, getting Josh I was enough to secure his legacy in Buffalo.

Yeah, out of the top 6 spots, only the 4th (Browns' 2nd pick in that draft) was possibly in play. Beane had a deal with the Broncos for 6th overall if Chubb wasn't there and when that fell through he traded into 7 when the Bucs were on the clock. So the question is whether he could gotten to 4th overall and I think the Browns were looking to rebuild and get the best CB.

He's plugging his fiancé's new movie.

Canucks invading Charlotte…..

Thanks much for the clarification. I see your point now. You have better knowledge of economic theory than myself. The one thing I’m confident about is that a group of corporate elites will mightily enrich themselves along with Trump during his term. Lower income Americans will struggle due to the various impacts of the Trump tax. During this period and after, there will be a battle of ideas on what to do differently and those wealthy elites will push their corporate propaganda on the public and through the halls of Congress to prevent change. Here is the chart I think you are referring to. One of Trumps advantages (?) is that he speaks at a fourth grade level. He does not speak about logical, rational, realistic solutions to issues. He does not explain complex issues. Instead his speech connects to many people’s emotions. Immigrants are rapists and murderers, Mexico will pay for the wall, America is getting ripped off by other countries, tariffs will force other countries to pay us billions and billions of dollars, we will be richer than ever before, etc. His message is unconstrained by reality. Trump has proven that a lot of the undecided Americans, who do decide elections, believe these types of emotional messaging. Dems need to find a simple message and a messenger who speaks below college level language, to connect with the common, uninterested voters. They shouldn’t fall into the trap of campaigning on rational programs for real problems (CHIPS act was that) as the voters who decide elections don’t care about that. Their message needs broad appeal and drop the group identity politics. Given the nature of their supporters, that will be a challenge.

Forrest has done it (though a bit ago) in the NFL is why. In 2022 (second season) he started 11 games and had a coverage rating of 75.4. Not sure what his run defense was like but that rating would be so much better than any of our safeties last year. He got injured and then new coaching regime. I think it’s more likely he puts it together than a 5th round rookie (though I’m also high on him and prefer him to rapp or Hamlin). Not too much about Hancock from rookie camp. I think preseason will be super interesting to evaluate him.

With 32 teams, the average NFL teams have a 3% chance of winning the Super Bowl. The best teams have a more-or-less 10% chance. The Bills are one of those teams again this year. Sadly, the Chiefs defy the odds with their improbable combination of luck, a good GM, good offensive head coach, good defensive coordinator, and HOF QB.

I would say feeling "great" about a player is the equivalent of feeling 'sure' so that's splitting hairs. The Cordy Glenn trade up was a heist. Moving up 11 spots using a solid veteran with one kidney seemed like a George Allen trade from the 1970's when college player evaluation was much less scientific. Getting a pick at the top of the 3rd round for Tyrod Taylor as well. Getting up to 7 was a relatively easy move. 7 shouldn't have gotten it done though. Allen was the type of high ceiling QB who goes #1 overall more years than not. Warts and all. It took an astonishingly stupid move by John Elway and Denver to allow Allen to fall there. I had followed Allen's season and it was no secret that Elway was personally scouting him. There was a lot more luck involved than brilliance in getting him at 7. But Beane has my eternal gratitude because he actually did what I had been imploring Bills GM's to do forever. Pick a QB with that very first pick and run with it. The argument about whether it would have been worth the cost to move up more if it meant more premium picks should be in perspective when it comes to the QB position. The people who seem to over-value those picks the most are the people who follow the draft casually. Which is the majority of fans/media. I know for a FACT that a 1st round pick is the most overrated personnel chip a team has. Casual followers just have short memories about the picks. Not having #1 picks is not certain disaster. The McBeane Bills have overcome a ton of very disappointing 1st and 2nd round picks. Those misses aren't why they haven't won a SB.

Antifa- the SDS of the 20s. Both use words in their titles that are opposite their aims.

Burrow. But in general, you’re correct. Most of the great ones have some aspect of their game that can be improved.

I think the guarantee will be less than that. I think somewhere around $21/22m.

Correct and I think Beane and McDermott are counting on this too. Plus, Samuel looked a ton better at the end of the season when he was healthier (remember the TD vs Denver in the playoffs).

How can you say Cleveland is screwing up? They finished with the second worst record in the league, then fleeced the Jags out of next years first round pick. They are well-positioned to grab a QB in next year’s draft. And it’s not at all clear to me that they are trying to win games in 2025.

Happy Mom's Day Mup! Thanks for your kind words last year while I was going through my medical ordeal. Only struggle now is to lose weight I gained from the prednisone i have to take, everything else is fine. Don't get riled up from PPP, it's not worth it.You probably won't run into nybody from here in real life, so F'em.😀 The only people I have met are mead (at Hammer's lot), Mark Vader (was in the SJ Bills Backers with him) and Exiled in Illinois (his father grew up down the street from me and his mom worked with my dad- we had a couple beers when he came back to visit once).

I was looking at that and saying "they need to install 60,000 of those suckers!" And I'm sure some are more elaborate.

Right. But everyone does this. Cook and his agent will surely negotiate for all of year one and probably most of year two being guaranteed. Otherwise, they won’t accept a completely silly fake contract. My suspicion is that they would sign 3 for $45M with 28M+ guaranteed today. We can manipulate the cap number from there, but that would still be the contract.

Just curious, when was the last time a can't-miss QB in the draft panned out as expected? Seems to me it's the guys with questions that turn out better.

I don't agree WRT manipulating the fans about how much they liked Allen. Giants still had Manning and wanted to grow the ground game to support him. He couldn't knock CLE and NYJ out of their spots, so he was going to have to wait on those picks anyways. Indy wasn't in the QB market and it sounds like Beane had enough Intel from Elway that theirs wouldn't be a QB. He took a chance with Denver. He may have also felt Lamar had a chance to be great, we don't know about that. Also, Beane still had a franchise to construct so he wasn't going to mortgage their future picks too soon. I have no problem taking Beane at his word on their Allen view pre-draft.

Why Forrest over Hancock? From what I've read, Forrest isn't the greatest cover safety. BTW, any word about the 2nd day (yesterday) of rookie minicamp?

Josh always had the accuracy; it was the consistency of his mechanics that was the issue. The others guys just don't have the accuracy even with consistency of their mechanics. As I said above, you could say that every with a franchise QB not taken with the first 2 picks weren't "sure" since they didn't move into the top spots to get their QB.

I get it in that context. But otherwise I like him as a chess piece/heir apparent to Johnson. Hoping Forrest takes that starting role next to Bishop. Hey, if Hancock can come in and pair up with Bishop for a long while I’m fine with that though!

Ah. Well that splains it!

Oh no doubt that's the hope. I just think he's going to flash at NCB.

It can't be the upcoming Bills/Hallmark movie, since Peacock just dropped Hallmark from their service.