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What constitutes as a fan complaining? Saying that this defense isn't good enough and needs to get off the field on 3rd down more consistently? Saying that the pass defense has holes and needs better play from their DBs? Is it saying that our offense has been stalling out and keeping lesser teams in the game? We all know they are winning and scoring 30+ a game. That shows how good the team is. Some of this is just reality. It really has nothing to do with crying.

You could’ve put the chiefs article in the thread dedicated to Xavier Worthy

Nailed it.

im watching it now for some fun before I get to work this morning and the pass rush is just a bunch of guys stuck to the lineman in front of them, especially everyones savior. this has to improve. The run defense is the run defense but they will not win against good teams later in the year with this pass rush.

I still cant believe we got a Dolphins’ 1st round pick for Marlin Briscoe and used it to draft Joe DeLamielleure. BRB, going to Fin Heaven to see what they’re saying about it, today.

From watching Lamar this season I think they may have found his Kryptonite !!

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I think his play over the years has earned his spot on the roster and in the rotation. But he isnt a rookie anymore. His work over the summer and in practice has put him on the field. This season he hasn’t taken advantage of it. He is at the produce stage. By looking like the weak spot of the group on the field he is firmly in consideration to be waived when the suspension is up. Through 4 games Solomon hasnt played very good. I would give Jackson those snaps.

So, I am torn here... maybe our definition of bust is different... like when I say bust it is definitive... they are a bust, lost cause, get em out... but in the end I am with you... highly touted 3rd rd pick not even being able to dress for a game with the below average performance of our defense and even worse pass rush (although yesterdays seemed a bit better) is really disappointing... I had hoped for more.

I don' think Samuel needs to be a better returner than Codrington to stay on the roster or even take over return duties. He just needs to be on the low end of comparable. Because ultimately if we have a rash of injuries Samuel is a better option at receiver than Codrington is at DB. I say that as a guy who isn't stoked about Curtis Samuel's career as a Bill.

120 million in 2024 113 million in 2025

There was that one and one going the other way that Williams missed where the Bills absolutely whiffed on Rattler scrambles.

Depending on who they had for a match it would be a very good addition. Throw Stephanie Vaquer and Liv Morgan in a match and it would draw historic numbers IMO.

week 1 was week 1... This Defense is way better with Oliver and Milano playing.

Agreed. The vaunted ravens defense is not as good in practice as it is on paper. This is a defense that started last year as terrible against the pass and was wildly inconsistent most of the year. Worthy helped. A lot. But the Ravens didn't have a strategic answer.

Fully expect this to be full of posts about how tough the Pats are and how scared people are of them. Vrabel is a Meathead, McDaniels is a POS cheater, the owner is a POS human. F the freaking Pats to hell - CRUSH the MFers

Yea I thought he was being sarcastic at first. But I think this is real

Not just what you said, but Hoecht and Ogunjobi are not starters. So really you have three potential starters (I assume Hairston starts) that are missing, so it's really about just over a quarter of the starting defense as opposed to that posters claim of nearly half

I thought Josh got impatient halfway through the game and killed two drives tbh not trying to blame him for anything at all as even the very best qbs aren’t perfect but that was another game where the easy stuff was working well and we abandoned it for a brief time for pretty much no reason felt like we were using the saints to practice some things thinking the game was in hand tbh lol

Well, the practice window needs to open today for max then.

IMO, the Bills are the closest to that

My biggest takeaways. The run game is still awesome. Mcdermott's philosophy of allowing teams to have the numbers up front in the running game and challenging opposing offenses to stay with it and prove they can score Touchdowns via the run game is frustrating as hell to watch but has worked again so far this year. I expect with Milano, Oliver and Hoecht back soon they will play the run a little better. My final opinion so far is that as I thought all offseason the defensive free agents they have signed have not really accounted for much. The drafted players have been underwhelming though hawes and walker look like players that will help them win games all year. The rest of the class is hurt/inactive or not playing. Strong has filled in admirably but I don't think the plan is to have him out there late in the year. Fingers crossed hoecht actually can help the defense.

I think he'll be good and believe it's about getting more comfortable. On a hard knocks episode, I believe there was some Olinemen talking about a guy being nervous and that's who I thought they were talking about. Anywho, I would like to see some more unconventional looks along the line, such as maybe a 5-2-4. Back when we had Lorax line up between tackle and guard, he blew up every play. JMO. I believe playing an extra lineman will be the new deal and obviously we won't be the 1st to do it.

Ultimately it falls on McDermott, sure. But the 3rd down issues are very specific to this coordinator. Leslie consistently had top 10 3rd down defenses, McDermott had a middle of the pack 3rd down defense. The Bills were 4th worst in the league last year and are 8th worst through four games despite giving up none in 11 vs the Jets. That is a Babich issue and the tape tells a tale, his design on 3rd down is utter trash.