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The obvious counterpoint is that the Chargers fans aren’t talking about trading Ladd lol.

Show up to friggin work. Grow up. Take it seriously. Nobody else does this crap. Stuff like that.

Yep, sometimes the backup QB just gets the ball out of his hand and doesn't mess around too much. Mills is like that. Some Texans fans think he's better. Kind of like Brissett in Arizona. Kyler struggles passing and never has that kind of day with completions.

I think the bills organization is telling us that he is inactive because of immaturity. I think the actual reason is that he is overwhelmed/not good and can't contribute right now...

Well, l the bettors don't see it that way. History matter I guess, as the Bills are 4th overall at +850 behind only the + 800 Chiefs. Bills are favored to win the AFC title at +375. Patriots are +1800 and +600 respectively, although they are heavy favorites to win division at -250. Broncos are +1600 and +600 respectively. What this tells me is the public perception is that all the AFC upstarts are not really that good, and that when crunch time comes they likely will fold. But those are the odds, so take a stab at some of the new "good" teams in the AFC if your convictions are strong as betting against the Bills could be profitable. As Josh said right after the comeback over the Ravens: "next time have a little faith." Not much faith among many here, but what the heck, I understand after Miami. But when the Bills play their game, they will be a tough out.

No, he will be fine. When I was his age I was racing cars down Sheridan Dr at 90 mph ,driving home drunk almost every weekend. And if anyone denies any of the stupid thing we did at 22 years old is lying. Ok, he needs to grow up and when he does, than trade him.

His first few games of his rookie season have (and still do) give me hopes that he can overcome his supposed slowness through effort, practice and study. We have seen - good first few games - lack of production post-injury - him practicing hard in the off-season - good first game of this season - lack of effort, discipline resulting in poor performance This up and down behavior is something I cannot understand. Is it just immaturity ? If yes , I hope the bulb will go on and he will realize what he is at risk of throwing away - a unique opportunity (in the NFL) which once gone will cause him to look for alternate careers with decidedly less pay and fame. I would like the Bills to hold on to him and see what happens in the off-season. If he comes unfocused and disinterested for TC, then by all means get rid of him.

Always appreciate your insight here. Without tipping your hand too much, can you be any more specific on the nature of their frustration? Ability, maturity, etc,?

Roger Stone? You keep connected with a convict? Why should he be relevent to any level headed person?

I don’t mean to jump back in but they aren’t the same. McConkey is going to have another 1,000 yard season, 80+ catches and at least 6 or 7 TDs. This is on the heels of a rookie season where he had 82/1149/7. That isn’t the same as Keon. No matter how many ways, we cut up and manipulate Keon’s numbers to fit our agenda. It’s not only not the same, it’s not similar. If Keon had either of those years we’d give him a key to the city.

Rewatched yesterday knowing they win and was able to see a few things I missed. Poyer had a good game. Closed coverage well, got to the ball quickly (even stopping a first down). Got beat badly on the TD run up the right, not sure many safeties would have recovered on that. Hardman. Having him go long, even incomplete helped open the field for the offense for the game. I’m all for taking shots just to give the offense more room around the LOS. Coleman was addition by subtraction. Shavers had a great game with tons of effort. Gabe. Gave Josh a safety valve on a few plays. Seemed in sync with Josh much more than when he played here last. 3rd and long. They gave up a first down on the left side 12-15 yards deep too many times yesterday and this season. Not sure if they are in zone when they do this but there is a consistent gap in coverage the receiver finds and sits in about 15 yards deep. Seems too easy for the offense to get long first downs. This was too close a game to be giving up easy firsts like this. Josh. Nothing can be said but let him be Josh. Yeah, you get not so great goal line interceptions, but you also get a beast who will take the game over and will it to a win.

Do you think if Coleman was anything of substance as a wr he would be inactive on a team desperate for wr talent? I understand suck is a strong word but everyone drafted relatively early can obviously make a play. "Suck" here means that the player in question was drafted to be a starter, or solid contributor, and is overall a net negative. I am at the point now where I think we can say Coleman getting snaps throughout a game is a net negative. I think if kj hamler was playing, he would be better. Trust me I hate saying this but like I said before in a previous thread everything with Keon Coleman seems extremely forced and awkward. This is just my speculation and I have zero sources, but I think things are way worse than we realize and it's not just because Keon Coleman was late for a few team meetings. I think that's what the bills organization is telling us. I don't think he's a bad person or anything, I just think he's extremely overwhelmed and the bills said just make him inactive. he's going to be traded for whatever late pick in the off-season too.

I'd use a Tortoise vs Hare reference to Shavers and Coleman except that Coleman is also the slow one in this scenario.

This I think was more egregious that shown. The player grabbed his earhole and then the facemask. The yank on the earhole was enough to get the flag

you know what else is good against a very aggressive front? bubble screens! [runs for cover]

Bills 34 Hou 17 Sadly, I don't Billieve. . .

put a "C" on his jersey next season

Bills 31-24 Texans

Infrastructure all over America is aging out or not adapted to current conditions. It’s a giant problem which this bridge is just a tiny part of. It’s another problem which we largely ignore and kick the can down the road, figuring it’s a problem for our kids to deal with.

We are talking about Florida not NY or CA.

I'm not that impressed with the Texans' Defense as the PR department is: The only good (top-level) offense they have shut down was the Rams in week one, who they held to 14 points--but still lost. [Note, they did stifle the Ravens, but Lamar was out.] They have given up 20 to Tampa Bay (a loss), 27 to Seattle (a loss), 17 (a loss), and 29 to Jacksonville (which they somehow won). That’s an average of 25+ in these four games against these three playoff teams. Their average points allowed against the six playoff teams they have played is 22.5 points per game. Further skewing their D stats, they have had the luxury of playing the Titans twice already, who have scored a grand total of 13 points in those two games. And, they held the Lamar-less Ravens to 10. Yes, they are good. And mainly because of their defense, they have won 5 games. But the Defensive numbers are not as impressive when you look deeper. Take the Over on 22.5 for the Bills' offense.

DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!! GET IT FIXED SEAN!! THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE YOUR SPECIALTY. McDermott constantly speaks about players not maintaining their gap responsibility. Why is this consistently happening?? Year after year it's the same answer to the question. If said player/players aren't doing their jobs, why aren't they replaced? I'm, personally, just tired of the excuses from the coach. The Bills lost to the Dolphins and Falcons because their RBs gashed his defense. This season is a perfect opportunity for this team to win a SB. I know Josh will do whatever it takes offensively to win. Will McDermott be willing to do so?

That’s what you do when that’s all you got…..

To determine the height of an NFL players ceiling, we must first calculate his median floor height and add some yet to be determined number of feet / (his propensity for injury variable x his average number of missed meetings) squared . It's that simple!

I don't see us getting much back for him, and unless we really feel he truly has no value to our team I would prefer we keep him at his current cost which is minimal. He popped vs Baltimore and that was a game we needed him to do that