zdro22 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 http://www.wgr550.com/McKelvin-Pressing-Charges/5241750 Thoughts? Im mixed, i think it teaches the kids a needed lesson. However, i think Leodis could have done alot in regards to PR/fan support to just talk to those kids and tell them why they were wrong...thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Drane Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 George Wilson and the Union got to him. They are trying to make a big deal out of this to keep fans on guard from getting too close to these guys. Pressure was put on Leodis I would be willing to wager. These players want it both ways. We get TO and Kawika Tweeting us every time they drop a turd in the toilet.....streaming live and pushing products to us 24/7......but then they also want to be protected like Ft. Knox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 George Wilson and the Union got to him. They are trying to make a big deal out of this to keep fans on guard from getting too close to these guys. Pressure was put on Leodis I would be willing to wager. These players want it both ways. We get TO and Kawika Tweeting us every time they drop a turd in the toilet.....streaming live and pushing products to us 24/7......but then they also want to be protected like Ft. Knox. Isn't that the truth!... and they're not the only ones. Do people really care about all the minute details of these people's live? I certainly don't. Just shut up and play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Isn't that the truth!... and they're not the only ones. Do people really care about all the minute details of these people's live? I certainly don't. Just shut up and play football. You do realize that you don't need to sign up for his twitter feed, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Good for him. The little buggers broke the law, and therefore should be punished. http://www.wgr550.com/McKelvin-Pressing-Charges/5241750 Thoughts? Im mixed, i think it teaches the kids a needed lesson. However, i think Leodis could have done alot in regards to PR/fan support to just talk to those kids and tell them why they were wrong...thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Good for him. The little buggers broke the law, and therefore should be punished. Lets see what they get compared to Patrick Kane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Good for him. The little buggers broke the law, and therefore should be punished. Yes, I'm glad in this time of constrained budgets that the police department and DA's office are using precious investigative resources to build a rock solid case here that will ultimately result in $50 fines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 http://www.wgr550.com/McKelvin-Pressing-Charges/5241750 Thoughts? Im mixed, i think it teaches the kids a needed lesson. However, i think Leodis could have done alot in regards to PR/fan support to just talk to those kids and tell them why they were wrong...thoughts? The kids are a bunch of dumb asses and they need to be taught a lesson. Odds are unless they have a record they will get probation and community service (I had a classmate in high school break a guys knee cap and he got probation and 500 hours community service) so its not like hey are going to do hard time for this. Think about how stupid what these kids did was. Imagine you had a bad day at work you screwed up big, now imagine what you do is on live television to an audience of millions, now imagine as bad as you feel you come home to see that a person vandalized your home over what you did at work. We sometimes forget that professional athletes are humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Yes, I'm glad in this time of constrained budgets that the police department and DA's office are using precious investigative resources to build a rock solid case here that will ultimately result in $50 fines Perhaps the Erie County DA should investigate all the players using cell phones when they pull out of OBD on to public highways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY Nole Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 First, I disagree with the actions of these kids but to everyone who thinks fans have become way too out of control need to get a clue. This kinda stuff happens all the time on the high school level in places like Texas and you never hear about it. It is also not a new phenomenon. I remember hearing a story that Paul McGuire told from his playing days in the 60's. He said that following a game (in which the kicker missed a field goal that would have won the game) he was walking down the street with a couple other players and some fans came up to them and beat the hell out of said kicker right on the street. Again - not excusing the actions of these kids (and if I was Leodis, I'd press charges as well) just trying to make people see that this crap has been done before and will be done again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Drane Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Perhaps the Erie County DA should investigate all the players using cell phones when they pull out of OBD on to public highways! Don't worry...Scott Berchold would find a few thousand dollars....I mean ways to make it disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I heard that Leodis was going to throw the book at them, but it was stripped and he lost the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradamus Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Perhaps the Erie County DA should investigate all the players using cell phones when they pull out of OBD on to public highways! Those are Vehicle and Traffic Law violations which are handled by the town prosecutors... who are not affiliated with the Erie County District Attorney's office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 It's the right decision. If he doesn't press charges, it sends the message to the public that this sort of conduct is acceptable, which of course it is not. The laws are there for a reason - when somebody breaks the law, they should be held accountable. If these are otherwise good kids who just got caught up in the moment and did a stupid thing, then the whole process of having to go through being charged/convicted/punished might just scare some sense into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamnSam Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Good for him. The little buggers broke the law, and therefore should be punished. Oh yea like Lynch didnt break the law. Get over it Leodis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 http://www.wgr550.com/McKelvin-Pressing-Charges/5241750 Thoughts? Im mixed, i think it teaches the kids a needed lesson. However, i think Leodis could have done alot in regards to PR/fan support to just talk to those kids and tell them why they were wrong...thoughts? how would it be PR fan support to not press charges and for him to talk to these kids? how is that his responsibility? pressing charges on these idiots is absolutely the right thing to do...maybe pressing charges will make the next set of idiots think twice, either way they need to be held accountable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zdro22 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 how would it be PR fan support to not press charges and for him to talk to these kids? how is that his responsibility? pressing charges on these idiots is absolutely the right thing to do...maybe pressing charges will make the next set of idiots think twice, either way they need to be held accountable Im just saying that i think talking to some teenagers could look good the community, you can see how that could go over well after saying he wouldnt press charges? Im not saying i think he should or shouldnt cause i think these kids made buffalo and the fans look like jackasses to the country. I dont blame him for whatever decision he would make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 You wanna play, you gotta pay. I'm glad he's pressing charges. Kids need to learn that they can't go around doing whatever they want to...or they might become like....well...Leodis McKelvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF88Bills Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Good for him. I would do the same thing. If he doesn't press charges, it sets a precedent. some fans take things too far, and feel it's their right to do so. There are legal boudaries for a reason, and these guys crossed it... Let them get their slap on the wrist, and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8PRKN Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I heard that Leodis was going to throw the book at them, but it was stripped and he lost the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 George Wilson and the Union got to him. They are trying to make a big deal out of this to keep fans on guard from getting too close to these guys. Pressure was put on Leodis I would be willing to wager. These players want it both ways. We get TO and Kawika Tweeting us every time they drop a turd in the toilet.....streaming live and pushing products to us 24/7......but then they also want to be protected like Ft. Knox. Hold on there a second, up until this past year or so we haven't had athletes tweeting like crazy telling us every little detail. Also, T.O. and Kawika don't speak for the other hundreds of NFL players. And just because they do decide to "tweet" (oh brother) doesn't mean you paint obscenities on their front lawn for missing a catch or fumbling a football. It's nice that Leodis initially didn't want to press charges but a message does need to be sent and I think he's doing the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 It's nice that Leodis initially didn't want to press charges but a message does need to be sent and I think he's doing the right thing. Had the chance to let it die a slow death. Enough people jumped up and down denouncing the little miscreants. Now it's going to get even MORE coverage because while the contents of family court are sealed the kids will certainly be asked for comment as they leave court, as will Leodis about 400 more times. Inevitably the sentence will be leaked and will be discussed for either excessive leniency or harshness. (The comparison to Pat Kane's wrist massage are already out). not to mention that it sends the wrong message about doing the right thing after you screw up. He says he's not gonna press charges, the two jerkweeds fess-up, then it's book 'em Dan-O? Guess what happens next time something happens? Everyone keeps their mouths shut. Unless there is video of those two kids buying spray paint right around that time of night or a neighbor saw them and can ID them...in the dark...they would have never been caught unless they stepped up. They stepped up, they admitted wrong-doing. There was no Marshawn-esque no comment invisibility BS until charges were filed. One would hope their parents levied some significant punishment. At this point, what is giving the kids a juvenile record going to prove? File a PFA to keep em away from you and move on. If you're not sure if you want to press charges say so. Don't say you won't then change your mind after people come forward. very very lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Had the chance to let it die a slow death. Enough people jumped up and down denouncing the little miscreants. Now it's going to get even MORE coverage because while the contents of family court are sealed the kids will certainly be asked for comment as they leave court, as will Leodis about 400 more times. Inevitably the sentence will be leaked and will be discussed for either excessive leniency or harshness. (The comparison to Pat Kane's wrist massage are already out). not to mention that it sends the wrong message about doing the right thing after you screw up. He says he's not gonna press charges, the two jerkweeds fess-up, then it's book 'em Dan-O? Guess what happens next time something happens? Everyone keeps their mouths shut. Unless there is video of those two kids buying spray paint right around that time of night or a neighbor saw them and can ID them...in the dark...they would have never been caught unless they stepped up. They stepped up, they admitted wrong-doing. There was no Marshawn-esque no comment invisibility BS until charges were filed. One would hope their parents levied some significant punishment. At this point, what is giving the kids a juvenile record going to prove? File a PFA to keep em away from you and move on. If you're not sure if you want to press charges say so. Don't say you won't then change your mind after people come forward. very very lame. Well said my friend. I'm sure the Players Union got on Leo but the best thing here is to make it go away. This could get a lot uglier for the Bills/NFL players. What are the kids going to do? Community service? That's pretty much what NFL players do for serious felonies they get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 It's like this: Punks, dirtbags, thieves, etc, should not invade a man's (or family's domain). An example of punishment needs to be set for doing so. You rightfully kill them or you press charges. Fumbling the football with the game and the hearts of your team & fans on the line deserves pinishment as well. Painting some grass hurts no one, but it makes a valid point- don't fumble the fa king foot ball with the game on the line. You're a pro thats paid millions... so show up for work with a clear head. It's OK to do either crime, but don't ever get caught! There's a lot of camaras on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Screw 'em it'll teach them a lesson and send a message to others. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 i'll bet he's under intense pressure from his teammates to press charges. they know if they screw up in a game big time like old butterfingers.. their house might be next. not pressing charges sends the wrong message to would be vandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Having been a bit of a hellraiser in my youth, I read about what was done, how it was on the lawn (non-permanent), and what it said. I'm going to take a slightly contrary opinion here. Ok, shouldn't have been done, but was essentially harmless, and funny in a way that MS-13 tags are not because there was a kernal of truth there. I was going to give Leoklutz a second chance on the fumble since he was keeping it in-house where it could easily be remedied by a dad with hickory switch. He was being a mensch. But since he wants to go down this road and prosecute to the full extent of the law, I'm going to go down the same road and boo to the full extent of my lungs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFerguson Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 http://www.wgr550.com/McKelvin-Pressing-Charges/5241750 Thoughts? Im mixed, i think it teaches the kids a needed lesson. However, i think Leodis could have done alot in regards to PR/fan support to just talk to those kids and tell them why they were wrong...thoughts? I hope Leodis learned his lesson. If he ever fumbles again while fighting for two extra meaningless yards then I will spray paint his lawn myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I'm still wondering what an investigation would find that the admission of guilt wouldn't. Are they going to correct the spelling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I hope Leodis learned his lesson. If he ever fumbles again while fighting for two extra meaningless yards then I will spray paint his lawn myself. and i hope you accept the potential consequences, legal fees, fines that come from that because, evidently, some people never learn. but at least you've made your intentions clear, so i'm sure some of us will be able to point the authorities in the right direction. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 i think its pretty weak of Leodis to press charges against these 2 16 year olds, i mean i wonder what kind of trouble he got into when he was young. We've all done stupid things when we were younger, but these kids dont deserve to be charged with a misdemeanor for spray painting his lawn. I mean they wrote some words on the freakin lawn, ITS GRASS! Grab a hose, mow the lawn, its freakin grass, and now these 2 kids are gonna have a record because what they said was right? lol, i dont condone in any way what the kids did, but they were smart enough not to do anything worse, like spray down his house or smash some windows yelling "McKelvin you suck". I'm sure their parents have made their lives complete hell after this and remembering how it was when i was younger, I think thats been punishment enough. Hopefully Mckelvin will take the high road and drop the charges against the 2 kids, otherwise he would have lost my respect along with many others im sure. If his ego is that damaged than he shouldnt press charges, he should make it up on the field where it belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 For all those who might be losing any respect for Leodis, don't fret. If form holds, he'll be making his way out of town anyways after his rookie contract expires and cashing a much larger paycheck elsewhere. The good news is we'll have plenty of DB's lined up to take his place when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 For all those who might be losing any respect for Leodis, don't fret. If form holds, he'll be making his way out of town anyways after his rookie contract expires and cashing a much larger paycheck elsewhere. The good news is we'll have plenty of DB's lined up to take his place when that happens. +1 Sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I think he should just set about a dozen bear traps in his yard and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQ Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I hope Leodis learned his lesson. If he ever fumbles again while fighting for two extra meaningless yards then I will spray paint his lawn myself. You, sir, are an idiot. Guys like this should be banned from this site. Advocating vandalism and hate crimes? Its this clown's attitude that gives the rest of us a bad name. Buffalo fans were a national embarassment because of two idiot kids and guys like this who support their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQ Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 i think its pretty weak of Leodis to press charges against these 2 16 year olds, i mean i wonder what kind of trouble he got into when he was young. We've all done stupid things when we were younger, but these kids dont deserve to be charged with a misdemeanor for spray painting his lawn. I mean they wrote some words on the freakin lawn, ITS GRASS!Grab a hose, mow the lawn, its freakin grass, and now these 2 kids are gonna have a record because what they said was right? lol, i dont condone in any way what the kids did, but they were smart enough not to do anything worse, like spray down his house or smash some windows yelling "McKelvin you suck". I'm sure their parents have made their lives complete hell after this and remembering how it was when i was younger, I think thats been punishment enough. Hopefully Mckelvin will take the high road and drop the charges against the 2 kids, otherwise he would have lost my respect along with many others im sure. If his ego is that damaged than he shouldnt press charges, he should make it up on the field where it belongs. I think you are so incredibly off base its ridiculous. Its easy to have this opinion when you or your home is not vandalized or threatened. These two punk kids may have ruined his lawn but what if he had family in there? Kids? Are you seriously telling me you are comfortable in a world where your kids are at home and idiot kids are running around outside defacing your home? Its only a matter of consequence that they chose to ruin the lawn as opposed to spray graffiti on his house as opposed to throw a rock threw a window as opposed to setting it on fire. Reality check for you please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Ya should press charges. There is no place for this stuff in the NFL and no room to let people think they can get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotwing Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 If they did it to my lawn, I would press charges. Why again shouldn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 These players want it both ways. We get TO and Kawika Tweeting us every time they drop a turd in the toilet.....streaming live and pushing products to us 24/7......but then they also want to be protected like Ft. Knox. protected like Ft. Knox?! gimme a freaking break! honestly what the f is wrong with some people at this site!? listen, i want mckelvin CUT after after monday, but only a moron thinks it's ok for someone to harrass you at your house. if you screw up at work, the one thing you deserve is to be left alone at your house. i can't believe people don't get that. mckelvin is a dumb football player and our dumb coach will put him in more positions that will probably cost us more games. but as long as our dumb coach wants him on the roster, he gets to go home at night and be left alone. wtf kind of country is this that anyone whats it any other way!!?? good god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 You do realize that you don't need to sign up for his twitter feed, right? Yes, but I still get to hear about it from people on this board, in the newspaper, on the radio and on TV, including during the games. It's a fantasy to think that you don't have to hear the babble if you don't want to, unless you're going to turn off following the Bills all together, which I'm not prepared to do yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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