notwoz Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 guess Ill give myself a pat on the back for this one amazed reading through this how many people actually thought it was a good pick one year wonders rarely work out in the NFL At the risk of elevating Bill Parcells to the Mt. Olympus of the NFL, wasn't he one of those guys who wanted his draft picks to have a 3-year college record at the minimum. That seems to make a whole lot of sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) At the risk of elevating Bill Parcells to the Mt. Olympus of the NFL, wasn't he one of those guys who wanted his draft picks to have a 3-year college record at the minimum. That seems to make a whole lot of sense to me. I know he at least thought that way about QBs but makes sense he would think that about all players Instead of Whitner, McCargo and Maybin the Bills could have had Ngata, Mangold and Oher....WTF I just depressed myself Id like to see a thread from when Jauron was hired and see how many people liked that....worst head coach since Rich Kotite, just awful Edited August 16, 2011 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I know he at least thought that way about QBs but makes sense he would think that about all players Instead of Whitner, McCargo and Maybin the Bills could have had Ngata, Mangold and Oher....WTF I just depressed myself Id like to see a thread from when Jauron was hired and see how many people liked that....worst head coach since Rich Kotite, just awful Although the TBD search function is clumsy and primitive, I saw a few threads that resemble the Maybin draft threads: some folks thought he was the saviour who would lead us to the promised land, and a greater number who said WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I wanted Orakpo This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Look at it this way...We'll probably be running a 3-4 next Year anyway when this Staff gets canned... That's a damn fine call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 !@#$! I would just like to point out that Captain Hindsight was the first with the foresight to say !@#$ about this pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I would just like to point out that Captain Hindsight was the first with the foresight to say !@#$ about this pick Big deal. So you watched the draft with your cousin… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 McCargo, Losman..............Maybin? I can't believe that they left Orakpo....... Oh thank GOD I wasn't ok with this pick! Whew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The great thing about the 2009 posts is they show that the majority of the posters on a Bills fan board knew better than the "professionals" at OBD. And it was not the first time, by a long shot. This is not rocket science. It takes a special strain of incompetence to accomplish what's been done OBD in the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The great thing about the 2009 posts is they show that the majority of the posters on a Bills fan board knew better than the "professionals" at OBD. And it was not the first time, by a long shot. This is not rocket science. It takes a special strain of incompetence to accomplish what's been done OBD in the past decade. + 100 So sad, yet so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 SDS:worthy: Way to necrobump this thread for comedic reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I would like to see the thread after Whitner was drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I would like to see the thread after Whitner was drafted. Yes I recall the stink you made about that pick. Some of the funniest draft meltdownery in TBD history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yes I recall the stink you made about that pick. Some of the funniest draft meltdownery in TBD history Yeah, it was a rough day lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) Funny to see who has always been a homer and who could call a spade a spade. Very insightful on some current posters... Yah, big shock that the Big Cat approved of the pick... The great thing about the 2009 posts is they show that the majority of the posters on a Bills fan board knew better than the "professionals" at OBD. And it was not the first time, by a long shot. This is not rocket science. It takes a special strain of incompetence to accomplish what's been done OBD in the past decade. Indeed. And this is a point Mike Schope - everyone's favorite whipping boy has pointed out. For as much as fans are prone to hyperbole, it is totally 100% accurate that the franchise would be better off today had the average know-nothing armchair fan been functioning as GM for the last ten years. Ralph is so concerned about $, yet think about how much he's wasted on his front office (salary, flights, paid hotels/meals/expenses) when Joe in South Buffalo could've just used Kiper's board and made better picks. Maybe he wouldn't have drafted Kyle Williams and maybe he still would've drafted Mike Williams, but this is one among many many awful moves that would not have happened. It's a joke. Edited August 16, 2011 by BuffOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yes I recall the stink you made about that pick. Some of the funniest draft meltdownery in TBD history That really isn't applicable. We could have drafted Daryl Green with that pick and he still would have made a stink about it. The quality of the player is irrelevant to Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 That really isn't applicable. We could have drafted Daryl Green with that pick and he still would have made a stink about it. The quality of the player is irrelevant to Bill. To be fair this is the moment when he was drafted and the collective response of the board: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/45867-official-nfl-draft-day-2006-thread/page__view__findpost__p__674457 It wasn't just Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I think the most shocking thing about this thread is that Leonidas was, for once, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I would like to see the thread after Whitner was drafted. I hated the Whitner pick as well. You dont reach for an undersized safety when you cant stop the run and a stud DT is sitting there Ngata was as obvious a pick as Marcel was this year then the trade up for McCargo, even worse seriously, most of the posters on this board would have done better then the Bills front office, thats sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I think the most shocking thing about this thread is that Leonidas was, for once, right. haha; I thought the same thing. I also liked how everyone questioned Maybin's weight from day 1. Two years later, the FO finally realized he's too skinny?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Yah, big shock that the Big Cat approved of the pick... Along with LSI and Steely Dan. Wow, is that a brain trust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 haha; I thought the same thing. I also liked how everyone questioned Maybin's weight from day 1. Two years later, the FO finally realized he's too skinny?? One of my other favorites was "He's young, he'll gain weight." Yeah, that worked out well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 One of my other favorites was "He's young, he'll gain weight." Yeah, that worked out well... Sadly, it's "worked" for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Ngata was as obvious a pick as Marcel was this year then the trade up for McCargo, even worse Worse than that, they traded up for McCargo with Mangold still sitting there. How much different does this team look with Ngata, Oher, and Mangold instead of Whitner, Maybin, and McCargo? Friggin' BILLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 How did Modrak stay employed as long as he did? He must've had some dirt on somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 To be fair this is the moment when he was drafted and the collective response of the board: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/45867-official-nfl-draft-day-2006-thread/page__view__findpost__p__674457 It wasn't just Bill. You missed the entire point. The collective response was due to the drafting of Donte Whitner specifically. Bill's response was due to the drafting of a DB - regardless of who that player was. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Worse than that, they traded up for McCargo with Mangold still sitting there. How much different does this team look with Ngata, Oher, and Mangold instead of Whitner, Maybin, and McCargo? Friggin' BILLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I got "the Business" when we drafted Maybin and I said that his last name sounded too much like "Maybe"...but I understand that all of us were desperate to see a pass rush, but desperate moves translate into bad teams. It was a tongue and cheek comment so I was just begging to get flamed considering the collective mood of most everyone here at the time - it's not like I was was happy watching opposing QBs sitting back there untouched for 6-7 seconds the prior year, but I did feel that Aaron was a huge risk for a coach on the bubble. There was a good body of evidence from talent evaluators I actually respect that felt Maybin's one good year at Penn was a flash in the pan and his physical attributes did not warrant a high draft pick and he would project in the NFL as a tweener. That pick and the situation reminded me a bit of the Corey Moore pick out of VT when the team was looking for an edge rusher in 2000, but I thought that Moore was a better risk where he was selected in the 3rd and it was hard to ignore his 30+ sacks his final two seasons at Tech and to this day I think he would have been ok at linebacker if given the right situation (had similar attributes to our current Moats). Ancient history at this point, he was given a shot with the Bills and with the Dolphins and washed out - he is probably flipping burgers somewhere. The Maybin pick reflected what most of us saw as a pattern of reaching for potential in each draft rather than making solid picks - many times trading up to the first round to reach for a position of need. The other Jauron-Era annoyance was his fascination with lightweight linemen and linebackers with high motors I don't think any of us are shedding any tears as Nix jettisons the garbage, and the team moves on. I like where this team is heading draft-wise now sans Modrak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 To be fair this is the moment when he was drafted and the collective response of the board: http://forums.twobil...post__p__674457 That's pretty funny. Of course, half those people wanted Leinart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrw Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 If you take a look at this article below it could of been possible that Maybin juiced before the combine to gain that extra 25lbs of muscle to improve his draft position. Its nearly impossible to gain 25lbs of our muscle without a little help. I have been weightlifting for over 17 years so I am not talking out of my #$%@. I still can't believe our scouting department could not see that this was possible at the time and drafted him anyway. http://blog.pennlive.com/pasports/2009/03/aaron_maybins_physical_transfo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfaninvgs Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 It's possible he did a few cycles... I wouldn't put it past him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 It's possible he did a few cycles... I wouldn't put it past him I'd do a few cycles for $15,000,000 guaranteed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Can you say HGH !!! I don't think he ever really wanted to be a Bill i wish him luck & i think it should be a rule that who ever the coach was that drafted him should be made to pick him up & pay him out of his salary for 2 years seeing as Jauron screwed the Bills so bad & got 2 pay checks for 2 to 3 years after he screwed up so bad !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Flowers Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 If you take a look at this article below it could of been possible that Maybin juiced before the combine to gain that extra 25lbs of muscle to improve his draft position. Its nearly impossible to gain 25lbs of our muscle without a little help. I have been weightlifting for over 17 years so I am not talking out of my #$%@. I still can't believe our scouting department could not see that this was possible at the time and drafted him anyway. http://blog.pennlive.com/pasports/2009/03/aaron_maybins_physical_transfo.html Why didn't you predict this and warn everyone??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I am not going to go back through and read that whole thing...but I was a big Maybin supporter......I didnt do my homework on this pick like a should have and we really did need pass rush on the team..... We reached....I was wrong....horribly wrong. The pick should have been Michael Oher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkLessWagMore Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Why didn't you predict this and warn everyone??? outstanding!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 The fact that he showed up this year at 220 ish pounds pretty much proves to me he juiced before he was drafted.... Then didn't give a rats ass about the team from then on out as he never actually tried to legit put on the weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I am not going to go back through and read that whole thing...but I was a big Maybin supporter......I didnt do my homework on this pick like a should have and we really did need pass rush on the team..... We reached....I was wrong....horribly wrong. The pick should have been Michael Oher Why should you have done homework on something you can't influence anyways? I didn't do my homework on that draft. The Bills chose without my input and Aaron Maybin stunk regardless of any pre-conceived notion I had of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Leonidas Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I think the most shocking thing about this thread is that Leonidas was, for once, right. Wait...when was I wrong??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvercrw Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Very funny Mr. Flowers What really drives me crazy is how the Bills scouts and coaches did not even see that this could of been the story with his sudden weight gain. Anyone with exp knows that if you gain 25lbs in 2 months of pure muscle something fishy is going on. To add to that as soon as you stop juicing you lose almost all that weight. I truly believe he did it to get a payday. Horrible the Bills (DJ) fell for this. Another example is Brian Cushing. There was evidence that he juiced throughout high school and college and no one cared. Texans draft him and he has a great season. Next off season he gets caught for a masking agent HCG (hormone only found in pregnant woman) and has not been able to stay on the field with nagging injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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