How would you handle this WR Room for the rest of the season/playoffs?

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, ***** said:

Play the ones who make the plays.

 

davis

shakir

Shavers

 

Those are clearly the 3 Josh trusts most.

 

Then add Cooks because he is a quality Vet.  

 

Then I guess you are stuck with Palmer?  Although I’d personally bring back Elijah Moore.  He could at least fill in the Shakir role if needed.

 

There’s no reason to have a third blocking wr in Coleman(Davis and shavers1/2) 

Palmer’s comeback route yesterday, sadly, was the most professional route I’ve seen a WR run for us all year. 
 

I think it’s imperative that Josh and Palmer develop some chemistry before the playoffs.  
 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by SCBills

[frostbitmic]

At this point for the most part our WR's are blockers and that's about it ... Shavers and Davis are perfect in their roles ... Shakir is woefully misused catching mostly passes behind the LOS ... Palmer hasn't done much more than Samuel ... Hardman fumbled away a punt return in his only game with us ... Cooks dropped an easy big yardage pass ... Coleman is late again. 

 

The Bills are a run first team with a majority of the passes going to TE's ... waiting until halftime for Josh to put on his cape is not the best idea.

 

Poor game plans Offensive and Defensive are putting this team in a hole early, not a good idea with the playoffs on the horizon.

[GunnerBill]

21 minutes ago, ***** said:

I’m not a doctor, but It looked to me, like both his hands were broken on Sunday.

 

I can't wait to hear your professional diagnosis of what is wrong with Keon Coleman.

[That's No Moon]

27 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Palmer’s comeback route yesterday, sadly, was the most professional route I’ve seen a WR run for us all year. 
 

I think it’s imperative that Josh and Palmer develop some chemistry before the playoffs.  
 

 

And even with that he didn't come back to the ball. If the DB doesn't slip he invites the pass to be undercut while he's standing still waiting for the pass to arrive 

[BuffaloBaumer]

Coleman had one chance to prove that he belonged yesterday and he dropped it. I think that was the one where we lucked out and got a defensive penalty anyway. Bottom line, he can’t even come up with a catch when it is his turn.
 

[GunnerBill]

11 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

At this point for the most part our WR's are blockers and that's about it ... Shavers and Davis are perfect in their roles ... Shakir is woefully misused catching mostly passes behind the LOS ... Palmer hasn't done much more than Samuel ... Hardman fumbled away a punt return in his only game with us ... Cooks dropped an easy big yardage pass ... Coleman is late again. 

 

The Bills are a run first team with a majority of the passes going to TE's ... waiting until halftime for Josh to put on his cape is not the best idea.

 

Poor game plans Offensive and Defensive are putting this team in a hole early, not a good idea with the playoffs on the horizon.

 

I don't think it was a poor offensive gameplan that got us in the hole last night. Defensively we were outcoached pretty comprehensively in that first half (then turned the tables after half time) but offensively it was execution - Cooks drops a bomb on the first play of the game. Then at 3rd and 4 Palmer stupidly false starts and puts us in 3rd and long where they heat up Josh and he is sacked. The third drive I think you can question the call on 3rd and 15.... if you are going to throw a short pass to Shakir there to get half of it back, which is what they did, then you better be willing to go for it on 4th down. Otherwise let Josh throw deep on 3rd down... you might at least get a DPI. But largely I think the hole on offense was on players not gameplans. 

[without a drought]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

It's to cold in Buffalo,  I was hoping for a warm weather city like Philadelphia 

Detroit is nice this time of year too. It's where the Bills play when it gets too wintery here.

[CircleTheWagons99]

Send them all on go routes and work the middle/sides with the TEs and RBs

[GoBills!]

Cooks, Shakir, Shavers, Hardman, Davis, Palmer
 

I’d still run lots of 2 and 3 TE sets we have 3 TEs that Josh trust and makes the run game much more difficult. But with those send Cooks deep or Shavers or Davis in for more blocking on a play action. 

Edited 4 hours ago by GoBills!

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Hate me but Samuel was a beast in the playoffs last year. Id take Shakir Gabe Shavers Samuel Cooks.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 hours ago, BearNorth said:

I remember at times in the K-gun days we would flank Thurman and use Kenny Davis as the RB, just to get Thurman in space.

exactly!! 
 

people are griping about our poor receivers. why not get our great RBs out in routes against LBs?! 

[hondo in seattle]

Assuming all our receivers are healthy, which is admittedly an asinine assumption that has never come close to happening all year, I'd probably go with Palmer, Cooks, and Shakir as the starting three.  And then maybe Gabe (for blocking and scramble drills), Hardman (for speed), and Shavers (blocking, size, effort).  

 

Keon would be demoted to the PS.  

 

But other than Shakir, there are no locks on the 53, which is a weird situation for an NFL contender to be in.  

[SoonerBillsFan]

Cooks drop was abysmal, seriously WTH?  Coleman is a waste of a roster space, healthy scratch him unless we have injuries.

[frostbitmic]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't think it was a poor offensive gameplan that got us in the hole last night. Defensively we were outcoached pretty comprehensively in that first half (then turned the tables after half time) but offensively it was execution - Cooks drops a bomb on the first play of the game. Then at 3rd and 4 Palmer stupidly false starts and puts us in 3rd and long where they heat up Josh and he is sacked. The third drive I think you can question the call on 3rd and 15.... if you are going to throw a short pass to Shakir there to get half of it back, which is what they did, then you better be willing to go for it on 4th down. Otherwise let Josh throw deep on 3rd down... you might at least get a DPI. But largely I think the hole on offense was on players not gameplans. 

Defensively in the first half we seem to be out coached every game. Maybe it's just me but it seems our opponent scores a TD on their first possession every game, that's just not good game planning IMO.

 

We put what 7 points on the board in the first half ? ... With Josh Allen as QB that's pitiful. Not scoring in the first half or scoring very little also seems to be becoming a trend ... I get it, players dropping passes, receivers jumping Offside happens, with this team quite often, that's coaching to a degree as well. Handing the ball to Cook on every first down seems to have been figured out by DC's.

 

Thankfully the second half of games Josh puts on his Superman costume, the Defense remembers how to play and they come back for the victory more often than not. Sometimes I wonder if they ignore coaching in the second half and play their own brand of football.

 

And I get we have seemingly more injuries than most teams but that just feels like deja vu all over again. I say that yearly.

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Defensively in the first half we seem to be out coached every game. Maybe it's just me but it seems our opponent scores a TD on their first possession every game, that's just not good game planning IMO.

 

 

It may "seem" like that but I don't really think its true. Both the Houston game and the Cincy game the coaching was not the major problem in the first half. Both those games were primarily execution fails by the players on the field - particularly our tackling. There were players in position to make plays - that's all a coach can do - the players failed to make them. This was a coaching mismatch first half though. McDaniels had McDermott on his heels and was finding ways to stress our defense with clever playcalling and good scheming. The only other game this season where I put a terrible defensive first half so squarely on coaching is the Atlanta game and Babich had playcalling removed from him at halftime in that game. 

 

9 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

 

We put what 7 points on the board in the first half ? ... With Josh Allen as QB that's pitiful. Not scoring in the first half or scoring very little also seems to be becoming a trend ... I get it, players dropping passes, receivers jumping Offside happens, with this team quite often, that's coaching to a degree as well. Handing the ball to Cook on every first down seems to have been figured out by DC's.

 

 

The only coaching fail on offense first half was the 3rd and 15 pass in the flat to Shakir which is only a sensible option if you are already decided you are going or trying a long FG on 4th down. If there is a chance there that you are punting that can't be the playcall. Otherwise players miscues were the problem. Players have the make the plays that are there to be made and avoid the mistakes. That is their responsibility. 

 

[BearNorth]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

exactly!! 
 

people are griping about our poor receivers. why not get our great RBs out in routes against LBs?! 

Yeah Ty Johnson as the TB and James Cook in the slot; Stack the box and then who? defends Cook in space, where he is elite.

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

3rd and long where they heat up Josh and he is sacked

 

Something went wrong with the pass protection on this play. 4 OL are blocking 3 rushers, which left 2 free rushers right up the middle. 1 of those needed to be picked up obviously and then you see what happens with Allen vs 1 free rusher. Too many pass pro breakdowns against blitzes this year but they tend to figure it out as the game goes along and they certainly did in this one.

[2003Contenders]

Question: did any of the coaches explain why Gabe was a healthy scratch? I think I would have rather had him out there yesterday over Coleman -- and possibly Palmer too.

[dave mcbride]

3 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

Question: did any of the coaches explain why Gabe was a healthy scratch? I think I would have rather had him out there yesterday over Coleman -- and possibly Palmer too.

I thought Palmer was fine. One nice route on a come-backer plus in position for a nice play on a crosser that Allen overthrew. 

[CircleTheWagons99]