Goin Breakdown Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago If slay was an option we'd know by now. Not happening. Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Slay can do whatever he wants. He knew that any team could claim him on waivers when he asked for his release from the Steelers just like he knew that if he cleared waivers he could go to Philly. He decided to flip that coin hoping his age and down year would maybe allow him to slip through waivers. And it didn't so he was prepared to retire rather than report if that happened. That is his full right as a player to do that. If you want to mad at someone, be mad at the system. But if you change the system then you allow players to manipulate it by informing teams not to claim him or he will retire rather than report so he can clear and go where he wants. I mean every player would say that so they could pick their next destination if they know they have options. So it has to be this way - every team KNOWS this when they claim a player. For Slay, his preference was finish the season out in Philly or just retire rather than stay in Pitt or go someplace else late in the season. People need to get over it. One thing I would say though is that the NFL needs to change the rules to where the team can get back their player if the claimed player refuses to report in the first 24 hours. So Ingram should have to wait 24 hours before his official release to first confirm the claimed player is reporting. And if that player chooses NOT to report, then the team keeps the player they were going to release AND also still holds the RIGHTS to the claimed player. And if that player later decides to report, the team then has 24 hours to either accept them onto the roster and then release someone, or waive the rights and player all together officially making them a FA if the team no longer wants them. That should be the rule and NONE of this would ever happen. No, I'm not going to be mad at the system. It's Slay/Rosenhaus + Philly's tampering that annoys me. Slay/Rosenhaus were not thinking he was going to clear waivers, they knew Philly would be putting in a claim, and they did. Slay wanted to play for Philly and Rosenhaus thought he had a way for him to do it. What they didn't expect was for anyone else to claim him. And when the surprise Buffalo claim happened, Slay quit. Do you really buy his story that it's cold in Buffalo, so he'll retire instead? C'mon. (the guy had played for Philly and then Pitt). It's not hard to connect the dots - Slay wanted to play for Philly, asked for help from Rosenhaus, who talked with Philly. Asked for and received a release from Pitt and was waived. This scenario is what they don't want happening, and they call it tampering. Clear as day to me and I don't like it. I can't see how you don't see it, how the league doesn't see it, and how Philly + Rosenhaus can get away with it without penalty. It's incredibly obvious tampering. 2 Quote
dayman Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Well, in fairness to Slay and Rosenhaus who the hell would have expected us to claim him anyway? What in the hell were we even doing. 1 1 1 4 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, dayman said: Well, in fairness to Slay and Rosenhaus who the hell would have expected us to claim him anyway? What in the hell were we even doing. Doing what every NFL team does to improve their team. BB apparently was unaware the guy only wanted to go to Philly.. that after the fact every media person was aware of 🤷🏻♂️🤓 Edited 19 hours ago by QLBillsFan Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 56 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: Doing what every NFL team does to improve their team. BB apparently who unaware the guy only wanted to go to Philly.. that after the fact every media person was aware of 🤷🏻♂️🤓 (deep sigh) Again... if Slay can improve our team AND if we don't have to play him in 3 weeks OR in the Super Bowl, why the hell should Beane give him a free pass? Rosenhaus and Slay can go phaq themselves, as can the Steelers and the Eagles. Beane did the right thing. Go look for something else to pick apart. 4 1 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: What rules did he violate? He was released, doesn't want to play for the team who picked him up, so he is not. No rules violated But that is the risk you take when you claim a guy off waivers. Same risk any one takes. When the guy is on waivers, there is a reason. It is not Slay's fault at 34 he doesn't want to start over mid season some place he doesn't know when he neither needs the money or the ring. If you don't think Slay and the Eagles were trying to orchestrate him back to Philadelphia Ive got a bridge to sell you. He bypassed the NFLs waiver policy and its CBA which his own union agreed to. He and the Eagles 100% broke NFL rules. 1 2 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 3 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: No, I'm not going to be mad at the system. It's Slay/Rosenhaus + Philly's tampering that annoys me. Slay/Rosenhaus were not thinking he was going to clear waivers, they knew Philly would be putting in a claim, and they did. Slay wanted to play for Philly and Rosenhaus thought he had a way for him to do it. What they didn't expect was for anyone else to claim him. And when the surprise Buffalo claim happened, Slay quit. Do you really buy his story that it's cold in Buffalo, so he'll retire instead? C'mon. (the guy had played for Philly and then Pitt). It's not hard to connect the dots - Slay wanted to play for Philly, asked for help from Rosenhaus, who talked with Philly. Asked for and received a release from Pitt and was waived. This scenario is what they don't want happening, and they call it tampering. Clear as day to me and I don't like it. I can't see how you don't see it, how the league doesn't see it, and how Philly + Rosenhaus can get away with it without penalty. It's incredibly obvious tampering. There are no dots to connect. He wanted to play in Philly or retire. He took his chances on waivers knowing someone else could claim him and that’s that. This isn’t complicated of some conspiracy 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: If you don't think Slay and the Eagles were trying to orchestrate him back to Philadelphia Ive got a bridge to sell you. He bypassed the NFLs waiver policy and its CBA which his own union agreed to. He and the Eagles 100% broke NFL rules. How did he bypass it? Bills have his right and he’s not an Eagle 2 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 11 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: There are no dots to connect. He wanted to play in Philly or retire. He took his chances on waivers knowing someone else could claim him and that’s that. This isn’t complicated of some conspiracy How did he bypass it? Bills have his right and he’s not an Eagle It's Tampering! Slay/Rosenhaus spoke with Philly about being claimed. Do you really believe "I don't want to go to Buffalo because it's cold" or "I don't want to uproot my family" nonsense. You know what Slay didn't say is "I wanted to play in Philly or retire". Any guesses as to why he didn't say that? 1 Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 16 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: No, I'm not going to be mad at the system. It's Slay/Rosenhaus + Philly's tampering that annoys me. Slay/Rosenhaus were not thinking he was going to clear waivers, they knew Philly would be putting in a claim, and they did. Slay wanted to play for Philly and Rosenhaus thought he had a way for him to do it. What they didn't expect was for anyone else to claim him. And when the surprise Buffalo claim happened, Slay quit. Do you really buy his story that it's cold in Buffalo, so he'll retire instead? C'mon. (the guy had played for Philly and then Pitt). It's not hard to connect the dots - Slay wanted to play for Philly, asked for help from Rosenhaus, who talked with Philly. Asked for and received a release from Pitt and was waived. This scenario is what they don't want happening, and they call it tampering. Clear as day to me and I don't like it. I can't see how you don't see it, how the league doesn't see it, and how Philly + Rosenhaus can get away with it without penalty. It's incredibly obvious tampering. To be fair it could have been a wife veto… I’m sure she already has friends in Philly and/ Detroit coupled with the kids already having friends there. For an older guy that means a lot unless you just want/need the cash from playing. Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On 12/12/2025 at 8:48 AM, dollars 2 donuts said: 🏆 Because the laugh emoji wasn't enough. This thread has the potential to rival the Particle Sun thread. But you extinguish that possibility with this kind of conversation stopper. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: It's Tampering! Slay/Rosenhaus spoke with Philly about being claimed. Do you really believe "I don't want to go to Buffalo because it's cold" or "I don't want to uproot my family" nonsense. You know what Slay didn't say is "I wanted to play in Philly or retire". Any guesses as to why he didn't say that? No its not. He can say whatever reason he wants to not go to Buffalo or where ever. It is HIS RIGHT to want to play for someone or not want to play for someone. He KNEW another team COULD claim him and he made the choice to GAMBLE on getting through waivers and get a chance to sign back to Philly, or see another team claim him where he was more interested in retiring than starting over some where. All he did was ask Pitt for his release so he could SEE if he got through waivers. When he didn't, the interest just wasnt there to go play here. That is also his right to choose to play or retire when he learns where his rights end up. 2 Quote
ddaryl Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: It's Tampering! Slay/Rosenhaus spoke with Philly about being claimed. Do you really believe "I don't want to go to Buffalo because it's cold" or "I don't want to uproot my family" nonsense. You know what Slay didn't say is "I wanted to play in Philly or retire". Any guesses as to why he didn't say that? He hit the waivers we put in a claim. He wanted Philly or bust and we claimed him because we had the right He does not have to report and he can retire. There is no collusion here because he was placed on the waiver wire, what he wanted did not matter, and Philly agreeing to put a claim on him does not matter, we took the chance he wanted to play for a playoff team. Yes I'm upset about it but that is the only thing he has done. He is ours if he wants to play 2 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said: To be fair it could have been a wife veto… I’m sure she already has friends in Philly and/ Detroit coupled with the kids already having friends there. For an older guy that means a lot unless you just want/need the cash from playing. And the kids and wife can move there and he can join them in a few months. No big deal if he decides to play for us Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 19 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: If slay was an option we'd know by now. Not happening. I think he’s very likely not coming but I’d expect him to play a game of chicken for awhile hoping we release him either way he might get antsy not wanting to retire the longer this goes on lol you never know Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 19 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: If slay was an option we'd know by now. Not happening. Not an option now but still a month in the season. We will see what he is thinking after the holidays are over and the reality that he's now a stay at home dad sinks in. 1 Quote
SectionC3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 43 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: No its not. He can say whatever reason he wants to not go to Buffalo or where ever. It is HIS RIGHT to want to play for someone or not want to play for someone. He KNEW another team COULD claim him and he made the choice to GAMBLE on getting through waivers and get a chance to sign back to Philly, or see another team claim him where he was more interested in retiring than starting over some where. All he did was ask Pitt for his release so he could SEE if he got through waivers. When he didn't, the interest just wasnt there to go play here. That is also his right to choose to play or retire when he learns where his rights end up. As it is the right of the Bills to use the chunk of the signing bonus he owes on next year’s roster. 2 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said: To be fair it could have been a wife veto… I’m sure she already has friends in Philly and/ Detroit coupled with the kids already having friends there. For an older guy that means a lot unless you just want/need the cash from playing. The season is almost done. It would take longer for the family to move than to just play out the season. That's why I think this excuse is BS. The family is already in Philly, not in Pittsburgh. Slay can get a nice suite at a Buffalo hotel, or bunk with a teammate, and play out the string with the Bills, then go home in 5-6 weeks, 8 if we go all the way. Edited 48 minutes ago by PromoTheRobot Quote
GoBills808 Posted 37 minutes ago Posted 37 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: The season is almost done. It would take longer for the family to move than to just play out the season. That's why I think this excuse is BS. The family is already in Philly, not in Pittsburgh. Slay can get a nice suite at a Buffalo hotel, or bunk with a teammate, and play out the string with the Bills, then go home in 5-6 weeks, 8 if we go all the way. Maybe he just doesn't want to play here Either way what's the big deal Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 35 minutes ago Posted 35 minutes ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Maybe he just doesn't want to play here Either way what's the big deal Obviously, but what a baby. I though players want to play. The Bills are going to the playoffs. Doesn't Slay want a shot at a ring? Apparently he'd rather pout. And what happens if did make it to the Eagles? Would he tell his coaches he doesn't want to go to Buffalo because it's too cold? Edited 33 minutes ago by PromoTheRobot Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted 28 minutes ago Posted 28 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Obviously, but what a baby. I though players want to play. The Bills are going to the playoffs. Doesn't Slay want a shot at a ring? Apparently he'd rather pout. And what happens if did make it to the Eagles? Would he tell his coaches he doesn't want to go to Buffalo because it's too cold? That whole podcast he did was just a pr move to make the bills feel like they’re keeping a dude from playing football near his family/put some public pressure on the bills to release him. It doesn’t seem to have worked lol Quote
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