Bosa needs to be retained

[Dafan]

If Oliver and Hoetch were healthy...you'd see a big difference in those numbers I'd think.

[BobbyC81]

19 minutes ago, Dafan said:

If Oliver and Hoetch were healthy...you'd see a big difference in those numbers I'd think.

If…

[Captain Hindsight]

Bosa has been who they wanted Vin Miller to be 

[Shortchaz]

0 dollar contract with 1 million dollar bonus per games played in perpetuity 

Edited 12 hours ago by Shortchaz

[gonzo1105]

I think he has been very inconsistent this year. He has shown up against the big teams or when we’ve needed him but inbetween has been very up and down 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Lafromboise]

6 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I would hate for the Bills efforts to go to waste if he signs with a new team after having his first potentially fully healthy season in 4 years. 5 sacks, 5 FFs, and a whopping 15 QB hits.

 

Although not always perfect at containing more athletic QBs, he’s improved in that area a lot as well. That strip sack turned the game on its head and helped cement a convincing Buffalo victory.

 

Whether McDermott/Beane stay or leave, Bosa needs to be signed to multi year contract. You can tell he enjoys being here and it’s clear he has plenty of gas left in the tank. 

 

play of the game
 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/14PSDYdycRh/?mibextid=wwXIfr

 

He likes being here BECAUSE of the culture with McDermott and beane.

[Chautauqua Mafia]

Because we obviously learned nothing from the von Miller deal

[davefan66]

I’d for sure sign him.

 

Culture fit. Been playing great. Have other needs and don’t need to create another need by not signing him. Won’t be cheap, but there is some savings if signed versus dead cap.

[Not at the table Karlos]

He has void years that you still have to pay for. Not sure how that works. 

[Matt_In_NH]

8 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

after having his first potentially fully healthy season in 4 years

Uh he has been a she’ll of himself with his wrist or hand for a few weeks and he pulled a hammy yesterday.   But I agree he would be an asset still worth signing.  

[T master]

13 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I would hate for the Bills efforts to go to waste if he signs with a new team after having his first potentially fully healthy season in 4 years. 5 sacks, 5 FFs, and a whopping 15 QB hits.

 

Although not always perfect at containing more athletic QBs, he’s improved in that area a lot as well. That strip sack turned the game on its head and helped cement a convincing Buffalo victory.

 

Whether McDermott/Beane stay or leave, Bosa needs to be signed to multi year contract. You can tell he enjoys being here and it’s clear he has plenty of gas left in the tank. 

 

play of the game
 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/14PSDYdycRh/?mibextid=wwXIfr

 

I TOTALLY agree !! He is a force and still has more in the tank and if Groot would show up more to help him I think this D would be a lot better ! Then next year if Hoecht can come back and be healthy well we saw what that was like so id be all in to them bringing him back !! 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

39 minutes ago, T master said:

I TOTALLY agree !! He is a force and still has more in the tank and if Groot would show up more to help him I think this D would be a lot better ! Then next year if Hoecht can come back and be healthy well we saw what that was like so id be all in to them bringing him back !! 

I almost forgot about Hoecht. Still depressed about that one 

4 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Uh he has been a she’ll of himself with his wrist or hand for a few weeks and he pulled a hammy yesterday.   But I agree he would be an asset still worth signing.  

I saw a player gut it out and shifted the entire momentum of the game when the offense was stagnant. The definition of a super star play. 

6 hours ago, Chautauqua Mafia said:

Because we obviously learned nothing from the von Miller deal

Not even remotely similar first seasons with Buffalo. 

13 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I've mentioned this phenomenon a few times..........but some people just start worrying about losing a player every time they have a good game.

 

As Jerry Glanvile famously said........NFL stands for Not For Long.    Performance can drop off quickly.   It's generally better to let things play out.

 

I can’t argue with your point. Anything can happen. Contracts a lot of the time are based on potential. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

13 hours ago, T.E. said:

The only player to ever have a 10-sack season under McDermott left after a one-year deal, so we'll see.

Leonard Floyd? 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

12 hours ago, streetkings01 said:

Saved our season? I mean we ran for 240+ yards and if it wasn’t for the 2 turnovers we might’ve been up like 17-0 going into the half.

Where did I say that ? 
 

I can’t stand when people throw in hypothetical nonsense to bolster their arguments. The fact is the Bills did turn it over twice and they were losing the game up until Bosa demolished Rodgers. If you believe in momentum then that was the point of the game where it shifted to Buffalo’s end.

[ColoradoBills]

5 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

He has void years that you still have to pay for. Not sure how that works. 

 

The entire $7.2M cap hit gets added into the new contract.

The Bills have options where to put that. 

[BADOLBILZ]

5 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I almost forgot about Hoecht. Still depressed about that one 

 

I can’t argue with your point. Anything can happen. Contracts a lot of the time are based on potential. 

 

Yeah the Hoecht injury was tragic because he was looking like a huge difference maker for them the rest of this season.   But roids are notoriously hard on tendons.  Never a surprise when a juicer pops a tendon.  The bummer is that NOW he's in the "real" testing program so his PED options will be limited.  Typically the cheats tend to get a year of carry over performance before the bottom falls out.   So Beane has to figure on getting the shell version of Hoecht after a year and a half of having to be cleaner than those players who haven't gotten themselves caught.   I don't think you can count on him for too much next season.

 

As for Joey Bosa.......I think we need to realize that the very slim chance that Bosa had a full-on "second act" coming and hopes that he could turn into one of those guys who figures out how to stay healthy late-career should have gone out the window with all the nagging, performance limiting injuries he's had this season.

 

Now he's got a pulled hammy going into THE game where, on paper, everyone knew they would need pass rush more than any this season.   If he misses the next couple games that will be gross.

 

I think at best he is just going to be a week-to-week journeyman pass-rush-only guy for the rest of his NFL career.  

 

Maybe in the offseason they can get a package deal with him and his former teammate Khalil Mack.   Instead of bookends they could share a spot.   More likely, they go back to the DE well in round 1. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

14 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

The bottom line is the bottom line but I hope we can extend him to another year or two..

He's a guy I would only go year to year on. I think if he gets the longer contract, he may be less open to play through some things that he has this year. Keep him motivated and he's going to ball out 

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I saw a player gut it out and shifted the entire momentum of the game when the offense was stagnant. The definition of a super star play. 

Yeah his hand is getting better and he made an amazing play.  I am just saying he was recently affected by injuries.