Passing of the QB torch?

[Chautauqua Mafia]

Maye, Williams and Nix are all ascending.

 

Allen, Jackson and Mahomes all floundering. 

 

You make the call: is the torch being passed in the AFC, and are we at the end of an era? Or is this a temporary blip?

[BillsFan130]

Does anyone think right now that Maye, Caleb and Nix are even close to those guys now?

I don't personally.

 

Maye maybeee, but nix and Caleb aren't even in the same league IMO

[Chaos]

Allen is not floundering.  Caleb and Nix will never be great.  Maye maybe joining Allen, Burrors and Mahomes as the top tier. 

[Ya Digg?]

Josh is on pace to have another season of 40+ touchdowns and that’s considered floundering? Meanwhile Maye is having a decent season, Nix plays one good quarter of football per game, and Williams is playing average, mostly turnover free football and they’re now the standard bearers? 
 

Damn, tough room 

[GoBills808]

Spoken like a man who's never watched Bo Nix play football 

[HardyBoy]

Having high level qb play on a rookie contract...

[LEBills]

I’d still take the “floundering” three making the Super Bowl over the “ascending” three. These young teams are going to struggle in the playoffs imo.

[BuffaloBillyG]

14 minutes ago, Chautauqua Mafia said:

Maye, Williams and Nix are all ascending.

 

Allen, Jackson and Mahomes all floundering. 

 

You make the call: is the torch being passed in the AFC, and are we at the end of an era? Or is this a temporary blip?

Maye, Williams and Nix will all get figured out some. It happened to Mahomes and Allen when teams start playing more cover 2 Shell. Teams will take away what they do well eventually. Then we will see how they adjust.

 

Another thing, Allen, Mahomes and Jackson have all had many more hits over time. At least in Allen's case you can point to lack of WR talent around him. And in Jackson's case this year, I still don't think he's right since the early season injury.  Mahomes has a lot of talented WRs around him and Reid calling his offense. No clue why he's taken some steps back. 

[BlazinBill]

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Don't think the torch is being passed.  Think it's just the league needs to buy a larger house to house all the good to great QB's today.   I'm old enough to remember back in the 60's where almost every team had a good to decent QB.  I suppose it helped that only about half the number of teams compared to today.

 

For whatever reason seemed like after the 83 draft, there were very few great QB's coming into the league for the next 15 years or so.  Seemed like maybe college was preparing QB's differently and that didn't translate well into the NFL.  Add to that teams fire coaches at the drop of a hat so very little time to properly develop a QB.  The past 20 years or so mainly for the HC's sake, the plan is throw them into the deep end and see if they can swim, but unfortunately most drowned.  In the past 10 years or so, maybe the college game has changed that these QB's now are better prepared and are able to stay afloat and not drown.

 

So no torch isn't being passed, it's just that the game is more returning to where it was 50 years ago with more teams having very QB play. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

[Chautauqua Mafia]

28 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Spoken like a man who's never watched Bo Nix play football 

I'll grant you nix. What about the other two 

[fergie's ire]

I think we already passed it to CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels.

[Success]

I've seen Pats fans talk about this w/ Maye.

 

If the current "big 3" were all in their mid-thirties, I might agree.  I know QB's won't have the longevity that Brady did, but most QB's are in their prime well into their 30's.  

 

And Maye/Williams/Nix really haven't proven or done anything yet.  We don't even really know what kind of playoff performers they'll be.

 

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, Chautauqua Mafia said:

I'll grant you nix. What about the other two 

love what i've seen from maye thus far. really looks solid

 

caleb williams is kind of hard to judge...he looks better than last yr. i think i would give at least as much credit to ben johnson for the state of the bears rn

 

but none of them are close to allen, mahomes, or jackson as qbs as of now

8 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

I think we already passed it to CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels.

correct

 

esp w stroud

[Cray51]

Williams is nothing close to Mahomes/Allen/Lamar.  He is benefiting from Ben Johnson’s incredible run game.

 

nix is a decent starter.  He is also about 50 years old.  He is at his ceiling.

 

Maye is good, but are we going to really say a 30 TD 10 Int season is top tier?  I don’t think so.

 

the NFL has 5 amazing QBs.  Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Stafford, burrow

 

that isn’t changing unless Stafford retires

[Bills!Win!]

Broncos, patriots and bears are doing well because of their team as a whole. The bills, ravens and chiefs QBs are all still elite but the team around them is borderline trash 

[wppete]

Hot take of the year 😂

[Nihilarian]

Allen is not floundering, his OC is tho

[No_Matter_What]

Nix is average at best. Same for Williams and he is not even in AFC. Maye seems good but too soon to judge.

 

Mahomes is worse than he used to be but still elite. Jackson had 3 bad games, otherwise is elite. Allen is elite.

 

So no. 

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, wppete said:

Hot take of the year 😂

 

He still has a month left...