Is it the receivers or Brady

[Allen2Moulds]

I think it's definitely more Brady. For comparison, the Patriots only have Diggs. Still good but no longer elite. I believe Boutee didn't play today, and they have a below average line and running game. Yet, every week you see them throwing bombs to open receivers. Today in Boutee's place it was Mack Hollins. 

We absolutely struggle in the passing game. 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Maine-iac said:

11 drives and we had 3 three and outs.  We had more first downs than Miami.

I love garbage time stats👏 

[nedboy7]

If Josh doesn’t throw a INT in the end zone and doesn’t fumble on the rush push it could have been different.  Still incompetent. But different.  

[GoBills808]

Just now, nedboy7 said:

If Josh doesn’t throw a INT in the end zone and doesn’t fumble on the rush push it could have been different.  Still incompetent. But different.  

If Allen doesn't stand on his head for 10 seconds getting that ball to Samuel we don't even get to the red zone because we punt so no...not different at all

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, nedboy7 said:

If Josh doesn’t throw a INT in the end zone and doesn’t fumble on the rush push it could have been different.  Still incompetent. But different.  

Cook fumbling just outside the red zone.  We left 3 scores on the field and 2 of the turnovers led directly to points. 

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

Both.  I’d say more Brady.  With a similar receiver set last year we used that 4 + 1 formation and no one could stop it.  Where did that go?  Where did who Josh called the best third down back in football, Johnson, go?  

Absolutely!
 

Our receivers as a whole are not good enough, but a good offensive coordinator would find a way to make it work with Josh Allen as their quarterback.

 

We used our running backs as receivers a lot last year, why are we no longer doing that?

 

If this keeps up, then Brady must go.

[BananaB]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

If Allen doesn't stand on his head for 10 seconds getting that ball to Samuel we don't even get to the red zone because we punt so no...not different at all

In his interview he said he was looking to Shavers but was affected by the pocket. I thought the pass was for Knox. 😂 

[Comebackkid]

22 minutes ago, BananaB said:

🤷🏼‍♂️

 

 

is their really a wr hierarchy here?..    more like if you happen to catch the ball u were the number one for that down

7 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Cook fumbling just outside the red zone.  We left 3 scores on the field and 2 of the turnovers led directly to points. 

the ball bounced badly every chance it got

[0017]

They have fallen into a rut, it happens to every team at some point, we have been scoring 30 so maybe they got a little complacent. Seems like a lot of the same stuff that teams have plenty of tape on already. It’s time for Brady to get some new plays to switch it up, also they need to include using the WRs…when is the last time Keon caught a ball deep over the middle? It’s always the same back shoulder sideline crap! Switch it up! How about a play action bootleg roll out? It’s not rocket science 😅 ok my rant is over, GO BILLS!

Edited 2 hours ago by 0017

[Comebackkid]

13 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Cook fumbling just outside the red zone.  We left 3 scores on the field and 2 of the turnovers led directly to points. 

and we got 0 points on both our ints.

[jahnyc]

It is both the WRs and Brady, but I really don't know how a team that had Super Bowl aspirations could put Coleman out there as their number one wideout.  That is such a disservice to Josh and fans of the Bills.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Can't judge Brady because our WR's are horrific.  Everyone not named Shakir sucks.  

[Alphadawg7]

It’s Brady and Allen.  If anyone doesn’t think Allen is having stretches in games where he is playing poor, exhibiting poor pocket awareness, poor vision, and making poor decisions then your are incapable of providing an unbiased review of how he’s played.  He was excellent against KC, but he’s not been the same Allen and was not good in all 3 losses and some of our wins.  He has had moments in those games, but he’s been off a lot this year.  
 

And Brady has been terrible most this season.  
 

Yes we need to upgrade at WR still, but these 3 losses are on Allen and Brady more than anyone.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Alphadawg7

[Freddie's Dead]

Yes.

[Mikie2times]

25 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Cook fumbling just outside the red zone.  We left 3 scores on the field and 2 of the turnovers led directly to points. 

Unfortunately last year made us fall into the trap of thinking this turnover margin was sustainable. Last year was the very best this can look offensively. I’m not even sure that it’s actually all that different this year. Teams are just a little more prepared for this system and we are turning it over enough to hurt. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Mikie2times

[JMM]

59 minutes ago, US Egg said:

Hey Howard, we know you’re mad as hell but no need to yell.

WHOS YELLING!!! 😜

[Maine-iac]

Just now, Mikie2times said:

Unfortunately last year made us fall into the trap of thinking this turnover margin was attainable. Last year was the very best this can look offensively. I’m not even sure that it’s actually all that different this year. Teams are just a little more prepared for this system and we are turning it over enough to hurt. 

It doesn't help that our defense gives up huge plays on the regular.  Bend but don't break has turned into hold onto the ball on offense as much as you can because our defense is a snap away from a sixty yard TD run.

[bills11]

Both while our wr group is average at best. A more cohesive scheme would still afford better opportunities and flow.. Brady like has been pointed out before has shown an inability to get production out of any wrs since he came to buffalo.

 

It has almost always felt like the passing game has been an afterthought under brady with a few exceptions ( lions game last year) matchups vs the Chiefs.  We've won alot of games where Josh had an ordinary game..this is one of the top 3 elite passers in the game today there is no situation where drake maye or a past his prime Aaron rodgers should be outpacing his numbers. Even tho he won mvp last year and limited t.os Josh is capable of so much more 

[Brandon]

To some degree, it's both,  but I'm hesitant to be overly critical of Brady, especially in terms of play design, when it's very obvious that they have a major talent deficiency among the boundary WRs.  

[NoName]

2 hours ago, Uncle Stucky said:

Both…they both suck. 

Throw Robert Babich in there too…no way he can be the  d coordinator next year.

Edited 1 hour ago by NoName