Asante Samuel Jr, cleared to play, talking to teams

[RunTheBall]

28 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The point was a much older player had the same surgery and went on to play multiple years of meaningful football. 

Completely different position. How many tackles did they want Manning to make in a typical game? Strong has the same issue and its a potential career ender,

[BillsFanForever19]

22 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The point was a much older player had the same surgery and went on to play multiple years of meaningful football. 

 

Yes, because he was a.) a Quarterback who doesn't get hit often, compared to a player who is hitting people play to play and b.) was maybe the greatest player of all time at that position.

 

There were concerns with Samuel's game before he had the surgery. His name carries more weight than his prestige on the field. And there's a sliding scale in both talent and the position you play that dictates taking a risk on someone coming off a Spinal Fusion surgery.

 

Peyton Manning and Asante Samuel Jr. aren't remotely comparable besides having the same injury.

[Matt_In_NH]

13 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Spine? I thought he had a knee problem?

It’s in the song.  The spine bones connected to the knee bone…

[Mat68]

No

[NoSaint]

12 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Dudes coming off Spinal Fusion surgery. He hasn't done anything football related in over a year - probably hasn't done much of anything since having Spine surgery. And that's not even taking into account having to learn a new Defense in Week 10.

 

He may have been "cleared" - but I'd be very surprised to see anyone jump at bringing him on now in the condition he's in.

counter: 

 

for a contender down the stretch he could take a few reps in case of emergency while ramping back up and certainly be better than your 4-5 cb in January… 

 

 

[ProcessTruster]

no time for old men

[frostbitmic]

He's the son of a great CB, he hasn't been the 2nd coming of him on the field.

 

Because of his name he'll have suitors lined up for him, probably a bidding war, Beane likely won't be one of them. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

11 hours ago, RunTheBall said:

Completely different position. How many tackles did they want Manning to make in a typical game? Strong has the same issue and its a potential career ender,

Bro it’s spinal fusion surgery. Doesn’t matter what position you play. It’s football. Anybody is capable of getting folded in half. Even quarterbacks. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just had lumbar spine surgery without fusion.  3 weeks in. just started to walk without assistance.  It's a big deal.  Hoping to play non contact sports again.  Contact sports- no way.   I find it hard to believe Samuel is willing to take the risk of NFL hits.  Yes, he a super athlete but he's still missing part of his spinal column.

 

edit.  He had C spine surgery.  not lumbar.  perhaps that's less risky.  

Edited 17 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever

[henry jones]

Didn't Jack Eichel have a variation of this surgery too?  Or am I mistaken?  Different sport obviously, but plenty of contact

Edited 16 hours ago by henry jones
bc

[uticaclub]

8 minutes ago, henry jones said:

Didn't Jack Eichel have a variation of this surgery too?  Or am I mistaken?  Different sport obviously, but plenty of contact

Jack didn't want the fusion surgery, he preferred a replacement disk. Lucky, it’s worked out for Jack….I live in Vegas now

[Captain Hindsight]

14 hours ago, jkeerie said:

He'll end up on the Pats.

More likely the Eagles or Ravens

[Brand J]

1 minute ago, uticaclub said:

Jack didn't want the fusion surgery, he preferred a replacement disk. Lucky, it’s worked out for Jack….I live in Vegas now

I don’t know why anyone would opt for fusion over a replacement disc!

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

It would be great to get rid of Tre and add Samuel Jr. who is a scheme fit for us. 

[uticaclub]

2 hours ago, Brand J said:

I don’t know why anyone would opt for fusion over a replacement disc!

There’s risk that come with both, the risk isn't completely risk-free from what I understand.

 

*Disk

Edited 13 hours ago by uticaclub

[IYKYK]

14 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

With their cap space, a lot of players will be. 

I’m sure the nfl is considering expanding the 53 man roster for the cheats since they have so much cap space still. Seems fair to me! lol

[Goin Breakdown]

3 minutes ago, IYKYK said:

I’m sure the nfl is considering expanding the 53 man roster for the cheats since they have so much cap space still. Seems fair to me! lol

They'll be rewarded with more and a comp pick. 

[Mr. WEO]

22 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

If Asante Samuel Jr. were a QB at the level of a Peyton friggin' Manning - it would obviously be a different story. But that's not remotely the case here.

 

there has never been a CB at the level of a top 5 all time at the most important (by far) position in football, so your point makes no sense.

 

The guy should be good to go.

[Warriorspikes51]

8 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

It would be great to get rid of Tre and add Samuel Jr. who is a scheme fit for us. 

 

I’m good with it. Put Tre on the PS 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

21 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Yes, because he was a.) a Quarterback who doesn't get hit often, compared to a player who is hitting people play to play and b.) was maybe the greatest player of all time at that position.

 

There were concerns with Samuel's game before he had the surgery. His name carries more weight than his prestige on the field. And there's a sliding scale in both talent and the position you play that dictates taking a risk on someone coming off a Spinal Fusion surgery.

 

Peyton Manning and Asante Samuel Jr. aren't remotely comparable besides having the same injury.

 

 

you're still missing the point.  all QBs take a beating.  it's up to the player to accept the risk.