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10 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I tend to agree with this but Coleman has been so bad that any upgrade moves the needle.  

 

You're probably right but at what cost? My point is WR shopping in October is ridiculously expensive. We threw a 3rd at Cooper for 20 catches and 300 yds.

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Just now, QCity said:

 

You're probably right but at what cost? My point is WR shopping in October is ridiculously expensive. We threw a 3rd at Cooper for 20 catches and 300 yds.

And +1 touchdown a game. We had a 7 point a game swing just by having him on the field. 

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16 minutes ago, T master said:

I don't know if there are any out there but those being Moore & Palmer that were brought in with all this hype sure are not the answer I would rather have them bring Cooper back I think he would be better than either of them .

 

They also need to start using Knox, & Cook more in the passing game . I also had no clue why if Josh said Ty is the best 3rd down back in the league why they called a jet sweep with Moore on that play only to drop the ball .

 

Ty like Knox & Davis have all been almost a forgotten piece of the puzzle has Brady forgotten what he did with them last season to be the highest scoring offense in the league ? They better change something and do it fast because what they have been doing isn't working .

Palmer looked like he had some juice in this game tbh of course when I finally thought that he got immediately hurt lol I really think he’ll be fine but I’d absolutely bring someone in too

 

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19 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said:

 

personally eyerolling this delulu take

 

If we lose to the Panthers the only trade I want to see is with SF. Josh Allen for a 1st. Let him go with a competent organization.

of course it is hyperbole but can you understand the sentiment? many of us love Josh Allen more than the Bills/team itself.

 

we want him to succeed as much or more than anyone else on this team.

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24 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Diggs had four straight seasons with 1000 yards and was an all-pro. Come on. 


That was before Brady, when Brady came in Diggs usage immediately tanked.

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1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Palmer looked like he had some juice in this game tbh of course when I finally thought that he got immediately hurt lol

 

 

For all the hype that they were given at the beginning of the year neither Palmer or Moore has shown me anything other than the exact reason why they were both available & I think that as I have said Cooper would be a better WR IF he was given the time to develop some chemistry with Josh but he wasn't .

 

I hope they reach out to him and bring him out of retirement because he's better I feel in all ways comparatively speaking to either of those 2 & now that he and Josh had half a season together they might be more comfortable working together because those 2 I don;t see being here long term and would trade them for someone better this week if at all possible ...

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Just now, boyst said:

of course it is hyperbole but can you understand the sentiment? many of us love Josh Allen more than the Bills/team itself.

 

we want him to succeed as much or more than anyone else on this team.

I don’t understand it at all personally haha I’ve liked players on other teams but the thought of wanting one of the bills players to get traded to another team so I can full on root for them is repulsive to me personally.  
 

It’s what those pats fans that started following the Bucs when things got tough did and we mocked them for it lol 

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1 minute ago, QCity said:

 

What?

They on average scored 1 more touchdown a game after the Cooper trade compared to before. 


Regardless of the fact that he wasn't effective numbers-wise as a WR, he changed the way that teams covered the WR room, and the Bills scored more points because of it. 

 

I'm not trying to say he was a home run or something for the Bills, but he definitely helped open things up for the offense. 

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1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I don’t understand it at all personally haha I’ve liked players on other teams but the thought of wanting one of the bills players to get traded to another team so I can full on root for them is repulsive to me personally.  
 

It’s what those pats fans that started following the Bucs when things got tough did and we mocked them for it lol 

there is a difference here. Josh Allen is a respectable person. Tom Brady is a POS.

1 minute ago, Bruffalo said:

They on average scored 1 more touchdown a game after the Cooper trade compared to before. 


Regardless of the fact that he wasn't effective numbers-wise as a WR, he changed the way that teams covered the WR room, and the Bills scored more points because of it. 

 

I'm not trying to say he was a home run or something for the Bills, but he definitely helped open things up for the offense. 

we averaged more yards per pass as a team when he was on the field, too.

 

douglas did a lot of good on defense just as well.

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I have a guy who gets some stuff and is usually right.  Here’s the skinny: there is a prominent vet being shopped to a team that most here would guess first and roll their eyes at.  I was told he would be a player for player for safety help, but I wonder if that move would help free up cap space for a WR.   (I have the Bills name, but not the other name.) 

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Would start with the Saints and inquire about Olave and Shaheed. Shaheed maybe more realistic and would like someone with speed to take top off defense something we haven't had since John Brown.

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1 minute ago, billieve420 said:

Would start with the Saints and inquire about Olave and Shaheed. Shaheed maybe more realistic and would like someone with speed to take top off offense something we haven't had since John Brown.

I’ll say it here.  The Palmer throw shod have been a TD, but it was a bad ball.  Some of this is on the QB.  And a lot of it is on the fact that our WRs largely suck.  But we do have to TRY to throw a deep ball now and again, and not simply a back shoulder to a blanketed Coleman.  

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4 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

They on average scored 1 more touchdown a game after the Cooper trade compared to before. 


Regardless of the fact that he wasn't effective numbers-wise as a WR, he changed the way that teams covered the WR room, and the Bills scored more points because of it. 

 

I'm not trying to say he was a home run or something for the Bills, but he definitely helped open things up for the offense. 

 

He played 39% of the snaps.  Do you think maybe, just maybe, the strength of the opponent we were playing had something to do with it? Or maybe about a hundred different variables? 2024 Amari Cooper wasn't adding +7 points to a MAC game. He was running in sand.

 

I won't play these Sammy Watkins decoy games. Beane flushed a 3rd round pick down the drain, and that's a fact.

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7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Because Brady fixed the running game. 

I give Cook and Kromer much more credit than Brady.  And if running game is so good, why does Brady in back to back weeks get cute?  Good running games should smash 3rd and short 

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1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Going through the league and looking at teams that aren’t going anywhere and who possess a genuine #1.

 

Jets: Garrett Wilson. They are not trading him, and certainly not to the Bills.

 

Dolphins: Waddle. I actually think he is slightly more plausible than Wilson in terms of willingness to trade, but only by a tiny bit. And I can’t see him being traded to the Bills at all. I would trade a first for him, though.

 

Browns: Jeudy. Maybe? He’s a better player than many think, but the Bills haven’t had luck with Browns castoffs these past two years.

 

Bengals: Chase/Higgins. Neither is being traded. They are being saved for next year because Cincy has the QB.

 

(Ravens: Nobody because even though they are 1-5, they appear to still see themselves as still in it.)

 

Titans: Calvin Ridley. Plausible.

 

Raiders: No one moves the needle for me.

 

Giants: No one; Wandale Robinson isn’t a position fit and is a JAG anyway.


Saints: Olave. Perfect, but I just don’t see the Saints robbing their offensive minded head coach of his best receiver. I would trade a first for him.


Saints: Brandon Cooks. This is basically an Amari Cooper move.  No thanks.

 

Cardinals: Harrison, Jr. Not happening.

 

At the end of the day, the only people I’m seriously inquiring about are Olave, Ridley, Jeudy (maybe), Waddle, and Wilson, but with the expectation that the latter two are no-gos.

Jeudy was on my offseason wish list. The Browns would be smart to unload him for whatever they can get. The Bills would be the perfect destination. This seems like the most realistic option. 
 

Olave is certainly worth a first and some. We already know Beane doesn’t know what to do with a 1st round pick when it comes to WRs. Might as well use it on a proven commodity. 

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1 minute ago, QCity said:

 

He played 39% of the snaps.  Do you think maybe, just maybe, the strength of the opponent we were playing had something to do with it? Or maybe about a hundred different variables? 2024 Amari Cooper wasn't adding +7 points to a MAC game. He was running in sand.

 

I won't play these Sammy Watkins decoy games. Beane flushed a 3rd round pick down the drain, and that's a fact.

You can attribute it to whatever you want. The Bills scored 7.4 more PPG in the games that he dressed and threw for 62.8 more YPG. That’s not arguable. How much of that you want to attribute to Cooper’s presence may vary. What can’t vary though is that they were a much more effective passing offense when he played than when he didn’t. That’s just a fact.

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