Go on record... Fire McDermott?

[BillsFan692]

20 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Half the fan base will abandon the team if we don’t fire the head coach this season??  😂 SUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE!

 

The answer is, you’re wrong.  But If that does happen to be the case, this fan base isn’t nearly as great as we think we are.  Luckily, we are that great and it’ll just be exactly what it has been for decades.  A great group that has a fair share of poutsters that say they are going to abandon ship, that rarely ever do

 

Except that you never considered what is different this time. This time the team actually drafted a WORLD WIDE SUPER STAR. Fans are in love with Allen much more than they are with the buffalo bills (front office, owner, management, etc). Never has that ever been the case in buffalo before. Now you are watching them tragically destroy this mans career and I am telling you there will be consequences. 

[Dillenger4]

It's over. Window shut. We need a top 10 draft year to fill all of the holes. It's that bad.

Look at all the young teams that have caught up: Atlanta, NE, Colts, Denver, carolina. Heck, the Giants.

we need a LOT of holes filled through the draft. Maybe a tank this year ain't so bad.

Our window is cracked and shut. trust me.

[Buffalo Boy]

   If you think we can win a SB with McD going forward then you keep him.

   If you don’t then the sooner you rip the band aid off for the better.

   Brady is HC and OC and Babich is DC.

   If they absolutely implode worse than we currently are then it is higher draft choices for the new GM. We need one. 

    However, sometimes teams respond to such changes well. Brady and Babich have less than stellar ingredients to cook with. I have a more than sneaking hunch they haven’t been granted autonomy by McD.

   Many on here are so sure that McD isn’t meddling to the detriment of our coordination. I am not. 
I know that the chances of this are slim to none but it doesn’t make it the wrong decision.

[transient]

This team has had the same fatal flaws every season with McD as HC and Beane as GM. We have not been ascending for several seasons, and this season feels like they’re in decline. We are not going to rid ourselves of this defensive philosophy that counts on opponents making mistakes instead of forcing the issue until they fire McD. Might as well bring back Walt Corey for at the good this philosophy has done for us against contending teams. To boot, now we play complementary football by neutering the offense. Awesome. 

[HappyDays]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I wouldn't fire him now, no. But if I were Pegula I'd tell him to fire Bobby Babich take over his defense and make him personally accountable for improving it by the end of the season or else forget any other metrics he is fired.

 

Because that last night was totally unacceptable defense for a professional football team. Every time the Falcons ran outside zone they got 10 yards. Guys not lined up properly on 3rd down in the redzone. Players out there who are in year 3 who still don't know their ***** assignments. Disaster class in tackling. It was as bad as year 1 of the Rex Ryan defense for uncoordinated horror show. And forget injuries. If anything it got slightly better the more guys that went down. 

 

I still have serious questions for Brandon Beane on how he put this defense together and some of recruitment and retention decisions, but they can wait. That last night was a defense that couldn't execute basic day 1 install type plays. There has to be some accountability for that. It should start with Babich who is in way over his head. But then it should move to McDermott too. Defense is what got him the job. Well the defense is now an absolute mess. So either sort it out or get out. 

 

 

I also have questions on our game planning. Last week we left Diggs 1v1 and he punished us repeatedly. This week the only WR they had was Drake London and we let him just keep finding soft spots in zone or ending up 1v1. How does a professional coaching staff let that happen? Why aren't we game planning to take away what the opposing offense does well? If Kyle Pitts and Casey Washington beat you, okay you can live with that. But how can Diggs and then London have career days when you know they are the only guys that can beat you?

[BuffaloTX]

I knew 1 second after the "13 seconds". 

[HappyDays]

5 hours ago, Buddy Hix said:

there is no chance Pegula makes moves prior to the stadium opening.

 

I actually see the new stadium as a possible catalyst for him making the move. It's the last year of Highmark and as of now it's likely that no playoff games will be played there. The fanbase is going to be restless. Having a new regime around Allen is an easy marketing tool when you're trying to sell tickets at the new stadium.

[Gregg]

https://nypost.com/2025/10/14/sports/sean-mcdermotts-damning-bills-warning-with-season-suddenly-going-sideways/

[GaryPinC]

20 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I also have questions on our game planning. Last week we left Diggs 1v1 and he punished us repeatedly. This week the only WR they had was Drake London and we let him just keep finding soft spots in zone or ending up 1v1. How does a professional coaching staff let that happen? Why aren't we game planning to take away what the opposing offense does well? If Kyle Pitts and Casey Washington beat you, okay you can live with that. But how can Diggs and then London have career days when you know they are the only guys that can beat you?

This is an easy answer.  They rely on their blanket system and don't make enough plans to attack a specific opponent's weaknesses.  This has happened over and over.  Banged up offensive lines, secondaries, D-lines.  Doesn't matter, they all look competent when they play us.  One of the areas McD needs to practice what he preaches with continuous improvement.

 

McD plans first to avoid giving up big plays as a unit, much less so to individual players.

Edited 4 hours ago by GaryPinC

[ddaryl]

its not happening, Kevyn Adams is still employed, less than zero chance McDermott gets fired.

What about Beane as well if McDermott goes Beane goes too... No guarentees whomever repalces these guys would do better

[billsfan_34]

14 hours ago, ***** said:

I’d fire Beane before McD but yep

Id fire em all and hope Pegs becomes Team President 😂

[HappyDays]

Just now, GaryPinC said:

They rely on their blanket system and don't make enough plans to attack a specific opponent's weaknesses. 

 

Yeah and I have questioned that on both sides of the ball. It never feels like we are attacking a weakness or game planning to take away a strength. We're too stubborn about playing "our offense" and "our defense." Even back when the defense was good in the regular season, that was our problem in the playoffs. McDermott has established a culture here but I've never been convinced he knows how to game plan.

[Bruffalo]

19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I also have questions on our game planning. Last week we left Diggs 1v1 and he punished us repeatedly. This week the only WR they had was Drake London and we let him just keep finding soft spots in zone or ending up 1v1. How does a professional coaching staff let that happen? Why aren't we game planning to take away what the opposing offense does well? If Kyle Pitts and Casey Washington beat you, okay you can live with that. But how can Diggs and then London have career days when you know they are the only guys that can beat you?

 

It feels like they come in with the same exact gameplan every week. We rarely see the Bills take advantage of a matchup or weakness. We don't ever see anything exotic to stifle an opponent's strength either. 

 

I'm not smart enough or knowledgeable enough to see the nuance in the gameplan week to week, but wasn't the "everybody eats" plan supposed to be very matchup specific? It doesn't look like they're tailoring the gameplan with that mentality. 

Somebody make it make sense. 

[billsfan714]

19 minutes ago, BuffaloTX said:

I knew 1 second after the "13 seconds". 

Same here.   There are womens flag football coaches who would of done a better job in that same scenario.

[Gunsgoodtime]

21 minutes ago, BuffaloTX said:

I knew 1 second after the "13 seconds". 

Using hindsight they both should have been fired after this, maybe we would have a SB trophy by now

14 hours ago, ***** said:

I’d fire Beane before McD but yep

Me too, but Beane would be holding the door for McDermott on the way out of Buffalo

[Nihilarian]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Team starts off 4-0.  Loses two games and then we should fire the HC week 7?  So we can have Joe Brady call the plays and learn how to be a head coach at the same time?  Sounds like a plan that will gut the team for the remainder of the year.  But you never know….. count me as one to say we shouldn’t fire the coach during this season.  After the season- possibly….but let it play out

I find this thread thoroughly amusing simply because Bills fans are ranting and not thinking. Like you said, who will be the interim head coach, Bobby Babich, NO!

 

Joe Brady, the guy who keeps calling lame plays and couldn't figure out a way for his offense to score on a 2-2 team that was beaten by Carolina 30-0? That star QB that so many say this franchise is wasting went 15 of 26 for 180 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs, and was sacked 4 times.

 

The ONLY NFL head coach that has a better win/loss record over the last five seasons is Andy Reid. THE ONLY ONE! So, who do you find to replace the man who changed the entire culture in Buffalo? Now, other NFL players actually want to come and play in Buffalo, and previously, they didn't unless you overpaid, and even then.

 

This GM/HC drafted Josh Allen and found the right coaches to develop him. Beane moved up in the 2018 NFL draft to select Allen when six other teams passed on him. Cleveland passed twice! And they are still looking for their franchise QB. The NY Giants passed, the NY Jets passed, and how many QBs have those teams gone through trying to find a decent QB, much less a superstar like Allen?

 

In 2023, this team was 6-6 and about to lose the division to Miami, which was 9-7 at that time. McD fired his OC in Ken Dorsey, and replaced him with Joe Brady. Meanwhile, Buffalo went on to beat Miami in their last regular season game and take the division...again! 

 

Some of you ranting for change don't realize that this owner found a diamond in McD/Beane after he replaced Rex Ryan and has had his team in the playoffs 7 of 8 seasons.  Bills fans need to calm down. 

[CodeMonkey]

I think McClappy is a good, and maybe very good, coach in general.  But he absolutely BLOWS CHUNKS coaching in-game.  I have said that for years now.  Great coaches don't grow on trees, so voting to kick him to the curb without a better replacement is insane.  I think what the Bills need is to hire someone who is analytical and calm under pressure, put a headset on that person game day and stop Sean from doing stupid things.  

[GaryPinC]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah and I have questioned that on both sides of the ball. It never feels like we are attacking a weakness or game planning to take away a strength. We're too stubborn about playing "our offense" and "our defense." Even back when the defense was good in the regular season, that was our problem in the playoffs. McDermott has established a culture here but I've never been convinced he knows how to game plan.

My subjective perceptions feel like he gameplans around what opponents show on film (tendencies, reactions, formations) and doesn't account for dynamic position weaknesses including injuries.  Hell, his defensive system seems complicated enough already.  Could it even handle individual rules and actions for the current opponent?

 

Then there's Jordan Hancock.  Listed third on the depth chart behind Cam Lewis at both positions.  Is he that bad/behind or does McD not want to take a chance on another rookie with all the defensive problems?  Thing is, Hancock has shown a nose for the ball, aggression and playmaking ability.  Everything we desperately need from that safety position.  For me at the start of the season, Walker, Hairston, and Hancock were the guys you really try to push along for that difference-making ability.  Strong flashed later so the injury is a real shame too.

 

But ever since Peterman, I have worried McD doesn't properly appreciate/develop the game changing talent he has on hand.  Even their first year plan for Allen stunk from a personnel perspective.  Not much has changed this year sadly except for Walker, but that's more a necessity than a choice.

 

 

1 minute ago, CodeMonkey said:

I think McClappy is a good, and maybe very good, coach in general.  But he absolutely BLOWS CHUNKS coaching in-game.  I have said that for years now.  Great coaches don't grow on trees, so voting to kick him to the curb without a better replacement is insane.  I think what the Bills need is to hire someone who is analytical and calm under pressure, put a headset on that person game day and stop Sean from doing stupid things.  

Agree and we also need a different, new coach from outside for D-coordinator.  The problem is we're going to waste another Josh season unless McD takes to heart he needs to change his approach.

[billsfan714]

You know the Broncos when they had Elway moved on from Reeves eventually.   And he took them to superbowls. Sean and Beane havent even done that.    Moving on from Reeves was the right call.    But somehow some people think they are untouchable.   I give the Broncos credit, they had the balls to make a change that was needed.

Edited 3 hours ago by billsfan714

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, BillsFan692 said:

Except that you never considered what is different this time. This time the team actually drafted a WORLD WIDE SUPER STAR. Fans are in love with Allen much more than they are with the buffalo bills (front office, owner, management, etc). Never has that ever been the case in buffalo before. Now you are watching them tragically destroy this mans career and I am telling you there will be consequences. 

Ok my bad.  If we don’t win the Super Bowl or fire McDermott half the fan base won’t be fans anymore.  Got it.