Trading for a player mid-season...

[Rigotz]

Everybody wants the roster to improve immediately in areas of need. I get it.

However, impatience has killed Brandon Beane and this team in the past.

 

Ask yourself this question... when was the last time an in-season trade worked out for the Bills?

 

I can think of plenty that didn't:

Kelvin Benjamin for a 3rd round pick.

Amari Cooper for a 3rd and 6th round pick.

Rasul Douglas for a 3rd and 5th round pick. 

 

So, for all of those who will inevitably say "Brandon Beane caught sleeping again" ... name one time we traded for a guy in-season and the trade worked out for us?

 

Fact is, teams are willing to trade away these players mid-season for a reason. The truly valuable trades typically happen in the off-season, not during.

[Augie]

Benjamin belonged on a Rex Ryan team with unlimited donuts in the meeting rooms.

 

I’m not sure if we would have even made the playoffs without the emergency acquisitions of Cooper and Douglas. They were not long-term fixes, but they patched a leaky tire to keep things moving down the road.  There is value in that.

 

 

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Edited 30 minutes ago by Augie

[CDogg20]

Rasul was a great pickup at the time

 

Amari is a toss up.

 

Benjamin on the other hand…

[Low Positive]

Just now, Augie said:

Benjamin belonged on a Rex Ryan team with unlimited donuts in the meeting rooms.

 

I’m not sure if we would have even made the playoffs with the emergency acquisitions of Cooper and Douglas. They were not long-term fixes, but they patched a leaky tire to keep things moving down the road. 

People here forget how close the Bills were to missing the playoffs in 2021 and 2023. 

[Dillenger4]

12 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

Everybody wants the roster to improve immediately in areas of need. I get it.

However, impatience has killed Brandon Beane and this team in the past.

 

Ask yourself this question... when was the last time an in-season trade worked out for the Bills?

 

I can think of plenty that didn't:

Kelvin Benjamin for a 3rd round pick.

Amari Cooper for a 3rd and 6th round pick.

Rasul Douglas for a 3rd and 5th round pick. 

 

So, for all of those who will inevitably say "Brandon Beane caught sleeping again" ... name one time we traded for a guy in-season and the trade worked out for us?

 

Fact is, teams are willing to trade away these players mid-season for a reason. The truly valuable trades typically happen in the off-season, not during.

Rasul absolutely worked out for us. He helped us get to the Playoffs in a Big way!

Amari Cooper - he worked out. He wasn't the stud we all though he was - but he made some nice plays and more importantly, he changed the way defenses played us.

And no, teams are trading these players for a reason. Teams make deals with one another if the package makes sense and they feel it helps their team. It's not about tier 2 or 3 players being traded. If the $ and offer are good you can acquire most anyone.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Rasul was great that year, then bad last year.  Playing well again in Miami though I wonder if he was injured last year or something 

Edited 2 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Buffalo Boy]

16 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

Everybody wants the roster to improve immediately in areas of need. I get it.

However, impatience has killed Brandon Beane and this team in the past.

 

Ask yourself this question... when was the last time an in-season trade worked out for the Bills?

 

I can think of plenty that didn't:

Kelvin Benjamin for a 3rd round pick.

Amari Cooper for a 3rd and 6th round pick.

Rasul Douglas for a 3rd and 5th round pick. 

 

So, for all of those who will inevitably say "Brandon Beane caught sleeping again" ... name one time we traded for a guy in-season and the trade worked out for us?

 

Fact is, teams are willing to trade away these players mid-season for a reason. The truly valuable trades typically happen in the off-season, not during.

Douglas was a solid contributor.

drop that version of him on this team and he is easily our best DB

[Fleezoid]

Sometimes teams unload good players because they're saving cap space or they want to load up on draft picks. A little early, but teams like Jets and Tennessee have to know playoff are highly unlikely. 

[colin]

a corner and/or a safety could go a very long way in helping this team.

 

it could be the difference between a playoff exit and glory

[Dan Darragh]

19 minutes ago, CDogg20 said:

Benjamin on the other hand…

...a couple of Popeye's biscuits away from being a tight end 

[Allen2Moulds]

It has to be for the right guy. Sometimes the trades that you don't make, can also hurt you, like the year the Rams traded for Von. 

Amari was washed when we got him, Benjamin did help us break our drought but was a bust otherwise. I would argue he still served his purpose. 

Rasul was a good 1-year rental, and did help our chances, but wasn't the primary target.  I would also argue that he served his purpose. He was a great addition for the 2nd half of that year. 

If you want more than a rental, you have to spend a day 2, or even day 1 pick   

 

For example, Chris Olave to me would solve our issues at boundary receiver that we've had for several years now.  Keon simply is not it.

Olave would probably cost a 2nd rounder.

 

For corner, we just spent a 1st on one.  We would have to target another Rasul Douglas type, and yes, we probably would have to overpay, probably another 3rd rounder, but look at what a crapshoot the draft is.  Dwayne Carter for example was our 3rd round pick last year, and Landon Jackson was our 3rd this year.  Neither guy that is contributing. 

 

We can't keep wasting opportunities with Josh, clock is ticking, and we need to be more aggressive to get the right guys to help this team get over the hump.

 

 

[Success]

I'll add to the chorus - Rasul was great for us for a year.

 

It's very common sense for this Bills team to try to improve the roster, THIS year, right now.  As we've gotten into the season, 2 things are pretty clear:

 

    1) The AFC is as weak as I can remember it in the Allen era.  KC & Baltimore are faltering and look like they could end up as WC teams. Cincy is out of the running.  The other "top" teams are the Chargers, Colts and Steelers (all of whom are decidedly NOT juggernauts).

    2) We have identified some clear needs on this team, which can be addressed by being active prior to the deadline.

 

If ever there was a year to pull out the stops, this is it. 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

8 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

Sometimes teams unload good players because they're saving cap space or they want to load up on draft picks. A little early, but teams like Jets and Tennessee have to know playoff are highly unlikely. 

[MikePJ76]

Douglas was an excellent trade.

 

cooper was dreadful and Beane should have to explain that one every time he talks.  It was brain dead terrible.

[dave mcbride]

36 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

Everybody wants the roster to improve immediately in areas of need. I get it.

However, impatience has killed Brandon Beane and this team in the past.

 

Ask yourself this question... when was the last time an in-season trade worked out for the Bills?

 

I can think of plenty that didn't:

Kelvin Benjamin for a 3rd round pick.

Amari Cooper for a 3rd and 6th round pick.

Rasul Douglas for a 3rd and 5th round pick. 

 

So, for all of those who will inevitably say "Brandon Beane caught sleeping again" ... name one time we traded for a guy in-season and the trade worked out for us?

 

Fact is, teams are willing to trade away these players mid-season for a reason. The truly valuable trades typically happen in the off-season, not during.

October 1987: two first round picks and Greg Bell for Cornelius Bennett.

[ngbills]

Benjamin is the only bad move. The other two drastically helped this team.

[ngbills]

Dont trade any draft capital...where would this team be without our first round picks the past couple season? Wait...

[Sojourner]

Seems the 3rd rounders don’t work out.

 

Let’s use a first!

[Sojourner]

36 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

Sometimes teams unload good players because they're saving cap space or they want to load up on draft picks. A little early, but teams like Jets and Tennessee have to know playoff are highly unlikely. 

Who would you take from those teams?

 

For the Jets; Williams, Sauce and Wilson aren’t going anywhere unless it’s serious capital going their way. 

Titans; Simmons, McCreary and Sneed. Who knows there. That team might move one of them. Van Jefferson is interesting to me but he’s just a role player who I don’t think you can define as consistently good. 

 

[gjv]

I think, if Beane doesn't bring in a quality CB , within the next 2 weeks, he is guilty of dereliction of duty. Hopefully, the Pat's game has shown Beane that our secondary is lacking the talent necessary to  a serious defense. With Hairston and Strong out, Tre White a shadow of his former self, Beane has to trade for a top CB. The price will undoubtely be high, but not fortifing the CB spot will, in my opion. tank the season.