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I don't know if this is just by Brady's offensive design or if the receivers are all just that bad or what, but we need to be able to pass the ball downfield.  Dink and dunk is fine. It also has to be part of our arsenal. It can't be the entire gameplan though. A downfield pass game opens that stuff up more. We have a QB with the biggest cannon in the NFL and we don't even use it anymore.

 

I know people will say that we just don't have any receivers capable of it. I don't really believe that. I see no names all the time catch downfield balls. If it's true then it's true. If thats the case then I as much as I hate to say it... we need Gabe Davis back on the active roster. I don't trust his hands, but the dude has made downfield plays for us. It needs to be part of our arsenal. We aren't going to dink and dunk our way to a superbowl. It takes too much precision and leaves no room for mistakes. Hell, I think this Pats game was the first time I seen Brady take a shot on 2nd and 1 instead of just running the ball to pick up the first down. I been banging the table about that since last year.

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Can’t limit all of our offensive plays to within 15-20 yards of the LOS…or less.  Need to open it up and make the defense defend a larger filed.

 

Gotta let Josh be Josh.

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Their is one ***** team(NO) that has a deep threat guy(Shaheed) that maybe we could pry away from them

 

Outside of that there really isn't a guy that is better then what we have now

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We're not looking for the long ball anymore........we're playing more of a stick-to-stick kind of play, just looking for 1st downs to keep the drives going and as much as it is boring to watch, it's the way today's NFL has been headed for awhile now. It's a system that works, until it doesn't. When teams figure out how to defend the middle of the field and take away any type of running game, well you end up with a system that can't do anything to produce yards.......it becomes stagnant, and we don't have the type of on-field personnel or coaching staff that knows how to change their philosophy or playing style on the fly for making any in-game adjustments to counteract or produce any momentum.

 

I agree that i would love to see a WR1 that can stretch the field and keep the D's honest, but it's just not in the cards for this franchise.......they just don't see the value in it and wouldn't know what to do in game planning a true field stretcher into the lineup.

 

The FO is doubling down on their coaching strategy and philosophy of keeping the plays in the middle of the field and as we saw in the NE game and will continuously see throughout the season, it's a system that works, until it doesn't.

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Depends on what we are talking about.  If we are looking for deep crossers sure, we need that.   If we are talking strictly about Gos, Posts, and Corners, it's not something the current personnel is very good at.  We dont have the speed at WR to split two high safeties, and even if we did Josh isnt particularly good at throwing those routes.    One of our quarterbacks' biggest issues going back to his rookie year is deep ball accuracy.  

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Elijah Moore could be a deep threat, Curtis Samuel could do it, hell Josh Palmer has the separation numbers for it as well. 

 

The problem is that it's not prioritized as a need. 

 

I disagreed with folks on this earlier this season, but I think it's becoming undeniable: The offensive scheme is built around trying to keep the Bills' defense off the field. Since we have Allen it works and it's really efficient.

 

Frankly I think that's nuts considering our defensive HC. It feels a lot like we're using our strength to cover up our weaknesses, instead of bolstering our strengths to overcome them. 

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I think its less deep routes and more speed... this WR core lacks killer speed and great route running (Diggs is one of the best route runners out there) ... they create little separation... deep, mid range, etc...  most of the mid stuff went to Kincaid who is not being covered as a Primary receiver by a CB worked pretty well... but you can only run to that well so many times...  I have a sneaking suspicion that Josh is going to begin to lobby for a Primary target...  I am not sure Coleman is it... In fact I am not sure we are putting Coleman to his best use...  like in a Shakir role... slot guy with end zone fades to take advantage of his height...   but Shakir is in that role and has killer RAC ability...  I don't know... but it seems if we are going to improve we need to look at some type of change here...  what I hate is that you take a guy at a position you desperately need and literally have to scheme him in...    

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6 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

I don't know if this is just by Brady's offensive design or if the receivers are all just that bad or what, but we need to be able to pass the ball downfield.  Dink and dunk is fine. It also has to be part of our arsenal. It can't be the entire gameplan though. A downfield pass game opens that stuff up more. We have a QB with the biggest cannon in the NFL and we don't even use it anymore.

 

I know people will say that we just don't have any receivers capable of it. I don't really believe that. I see no names all the time catch downfield balls. If it's true then it's true. If thats the case then I as much as I hate to say it... we need Gabe Davis back on the active roster. I don't trust his hands, but the dude has made downfield plays for us. It needs to be part of our arsenal. We aren't going to dink and dunk our way to a superbowl. It takes too much precision and leaves no room for mistakes. Hell, I think this Pats game was the first time I seen Brady take a shot on 2nd and 1 instead of just running the ball to pick up the first down. I been banging the table about that since last year.

They had it Josh just did one of 2 things, he didn't see it or he chose not to use it . There were times he had guys down the field open and because he was running around didn't see them and as they say alls it takes is 1 or 2 plays to change the out come of a game, he just missed it !! 

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