Strong chance Ravens miss playoffs?

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Needs a more descriptive title 

How about “Ravens swirling around the drain” right to the point, don’t ya think, 😁👍

[SoTier]

30 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

They need to figure out how to run on a stingy defense that knows its coming.  Rush isn't a bad backup with a week of prep - his teams are 9-5 when he starts.  He takes care of the ball, and doesn't take a lot of sacks.  

 

They need to want to run the ball, but I don't think Harbaugh and Monken do.   Monken was brought in to rev up the Baltimore passing game and work with Lamar to be a better passer.   He's succeeded, but even though the Ravens have a stout OL and great RBs, they don't use them as they should.  I think the 4th quarter of the Bills game demonstrates that.   Harbaugh chose to trust his defense over his RBs and it cost them a win.

[RunTheBall]

The Ravens have some seriously bad mojo going on right now. If they lose to Houston I think the wheels come off that bus. If Lamar is really injured and the team isn’t running interference for him because he quit on them (which he has done before), then his #1 weapon (his agility) is going to be seriously hampered. He’s not a drop back passing QB. They weren’t playing well when everyone was healthy, so I don’t know why people think they can go on a 9-2 run.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

They need to want to run the ball, but I don't think Harbaugh and Monken do.   Monken was brought in to rev up the Baltimore passing game and work with Lamar to be a better passer.   He's succeeded, but even though the Ravens have a stout OL and great RBs, they don't use them as they should.  I think the 4th quarter of the Bills game demonstrates that.   Harbaugh chose to trust his defense over his RBs and it cost them a win.

 

Well... Cooper rush is starting in a must-win game, so i'm going to expect them to try and get henry 25+ carries, and 40+ carries as a team.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, RunTheBall said:

The Ravens have some seriously bad mojo going on right now. If they lose to Houston I think the wheels come off that bus. If Lamar is really injured and the team isn’t running interference for him because he quit on them (which he has done before), then his #1 weapon (his agility) is going to be seriously hampered. He’s not a drop back passing QB. They weren’t playing well when everyone was healthy, so I don’t know why people think they can go on a 9-2 run.

 

I think part of it is - the 3 hardest games on their schedule were @buf, @KC, and Det and those are all done.  3 AFCE games that are all winnable, 5 divisional games that are all winnable.  Minnesota doesn't have a QB, winnable.  Chicago isn't very good, winnable.  Patriots in baltimore in december feels pretty winnable.  Probably the toughest game left is GB.  

 

Really they need to get to 2-4 at the bye, and try and come back healthy with a 2-game week against chicago and miami which would potentially have them at .500 going into november with something resembling positive momentum.    

 

 

[HOUSE]

Truth is the Dolphins have a better chance 😜

[SoTier]

3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Well... Cooper rush is starting in a must-win game, so i'm going to expect them to try and get henry 25+ carries, and 40+ carries as a team.  

 

That seems to be a reasonable game plan to me in the situation they're in, but if the Texans some how get up 10 points or more early, I would not be all that surprised if Harbaugh/Monken abandon the run and have Rush trying to throw all over the field.

 

FYI:  I'm not a big Harbaugh, just in case you didn't realize that.

[billsfan89]

I would say that if the playoff format were still 6 teams that the Ravens are likely going to put themselves in too big of a hole to make it. But the AFC is likely going to put 9-8 teams in play for the final wildcard spot so I think if they can just limit the damage and float within a game or two of .500 deeper into November they will at least give themselves a chance at a wildcard run. 

 

If 2 out of the 3 teams let's up a bit AFC South Wildcard Jags or Colts, Pats or Second AFC West Wildcard Denver/Chargers/KC then the Ravens could find themselves only needing to go 9-8 to be "in the mix" for the 7th seed.

 

The AFC just isn't a deep conference where you need to push 10-11 wins for a wildcard. That can change of course. I certainly think the Ravens are going to be rooting for the Chiefs and Bills this weekend to bring the Jags down to the pack and to hand the Pats a loss to keep them at bay.

4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I think part of it is - the 3 hardest games on their schedule were @buf, @KC, and Det and those are all done.  3 AFCE games that are all winnable, 5 divisional games that are all winnable.  Minnesota doesn't have a QB, winnable.  Chicago isn't very good, winnable.  Patriots in baltimore in december feels pretty winnable.  Probably the toughest game left is GB.  

 

Really they need to get to 2-4 at the bye, and try and come back healthy with a 2-game week against chicago and miami which would potentially have them at .500 going into november with something resembling positive momentum.    

 

 

 

The fact that they could go 9-8 and be in the mix and at worst only need to go 10-7 to get a wildcard or their division is what keeps me from counting the Ravens out. They are 1-3 which while not good means they would only need to go 8-5 to get to 9-8 and 9-4 to get to 10-7. 

[T master]

2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

I hear you, but Their schedule really softens up after the next 2 games.

 

Even if they go 1-5 to start, 10-7 will still get them in the playoffs which I think they will ultimately do

As long as the Bills get the number 1 position and home field though out the play offs with the by the first week of the play offs I'm good with it ...

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, T master said:

As long as the Bills get the number 1 position and home field though out the play offs with the by the first week of the play offs I'm good with it ...

 

I'd be more good if the steelers, broncos, and jaguars all make the playoffs instead of them though.  I don't think any of them can beat buffalo in the playoffs in buffalo.  

[hondo in seattle]

Historically, teams starting 1-3 have about a 14% chance of making the playoffs.  A team starting 1-4 has about a 6% chance.  

 

Though we have to consider that seasons are a game longer now, and Baltimore is more talented than the typical 1-3 (or 1-4) team.

 

The Ravens are a tough matchup for the Bills and I'd prefer not to see them come January.

 

 

[Wayne Cubed]

I want to know what deal Mike Tomlin has made with the football gods to have tihings end up this way. I thought for sure this was going to be the Steelers first loosing season in 21 years but the division is a mess and actually looks like they could take it.

[JoshAllin]

At 1-5, I dont think he'd be able to hold it together emotionally. And might start forcing plays and get turnover prone like when he plays vs the bills and kc

[Royale with Cheese]

2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

I hear you, but Their schedule really softens up after the next 2 games.

 

Even if they go 1-5 to start, 10-7 will still get them in the playoffs which I think they will ultimately do

 

Nothing will be soft for the Ravens with all the injuries including their starting QB.

Edited Wednesday at 03:09 PM by Royale with Cheese

[Fan in Chicago]

47 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

How about “Ravens swirling around the drain” right to the point, don’t ya think, 😁👍

"Ravens cant fly" would be too boring. 

[BillsFan130]

3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Nothing will be soft for the Ravens with all the injuries including their starting QB.

Most of them will be back after their bye week. Madubuike I believe is the only one who isn't returning 

[Dillenger4]

Who cares - It's the Colts we need to worry about!

sarcasm.....

with our D.. we are lucky to beat KC.

sarcasm.....

[RochesterLifer]

The Ravens are a good team and a strong organization going through difficult times. I expect they will get healthier, claw their way back, and crawl into the playoffs. They will be coronated "the team no one wants to play."

 

Then, 😁 we will beat them by 14.

[ChevyVanMiller]

A scarier thought is the Ravens hang on long enough to get 10 wins and sneak in as the last wild card, while getting healthy at the end of the season.

 

Then the Bills, as the #1 seed, might still have to beat them and KC to reach the Super Bowl.

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Most of them will be back after their bye week. Madubuike I believe is the only one who isn't returning 

 

Their defense was struggling mightily before the injuries.

Now they might be without their starting QB.

 

This will be a struggle for them to make the playoffs.