Madubuike out for the season

[BillsFan619]

Big blow for the Ravens.

 

 

[mannc]

Honestly, I think the Ravens are done for this year.  And still no update on the mysterious Lamar hamstring injury…

[Utah John]

I honestly feel sorry for the Ravens.  For years now they've been a strong competitor for the Bills so we sort of hoped they wouldn't do all that well, but what's going on with all these injuries is really devastating.  They had the best roster in the league at the start of the season, and for 50 minutes in their first game they looked unstoppable.  But they do have a tendency to let the brass ring slip away from them.  Are they chokers?  Let's just say they aren't great finishers.  Lamar is a great QB but compared to Josh Allen he's just a yards machine, not a great leader.  The Bills wouldn't be 4-0 right now if it weren't for Allen putting the game on his back and going and getting the win.  Lamar Jackson would do that too if he could but clearly he can't, because he hasn't.  This is why Allen and not Jackson is correctly the MVP. 

 

Anyway it's really hard to keep a strong roster together year after year, like the Bills and Chiefs have done.  Are the Ravens going to hit a brick wall the way the Bills did after the Music City disaster, cutting Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith and Andre Reed because they couldn't afford them plus the good young players they had.  Can they keep Derrick Henry and AJ Brown and Lamar Jackson and their defensive stars, year after year?  This might have been the Ravens' best year and best chance at a SB, and now they're 1-3 with most of their good D players out.  

[EssexBill]

AJ Brown?

[Pete]

2 hours ago, EssexBill said:

AJ Brown?

?

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, mannc said:

Honestly, I think the Ravens are done for this year.  And still no update on the mysterious Lamar hamstring injury…

 

Agree. Roquan went out Sunday too, not heard an update yet. Reminder again that even some of the better teams in the league find 3 or 4 of their best players going down is too hard to overcome. Next man up is a cute theory. When it is your best guys it simply doesn't work. 

 

EDIT: worth adding as well that is even more the risk you take when you go for the stars and filler model of roster building. When I look at their roster I struggle to find a single spot where their depth is as good as the Bills depth. I can find plenty where their starters are better, sure, but their build relies a lot more on their guys staying healthy. I have been as critical as anyone of the Bills lack of stars, but it is right to credit them with their depth. 

Edited 4 hours ago by GunnerBill

[machine gun kelly]

4 minutes ago, Pete said:

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I was puzzled as well as AJ Brown is on the Eagles and this is a Ravens thread.

 

Now as far as the Ravens, I feel compassion for their team and fans.  These are some critical serious injuries.  I don’t see them as chokers, just any team can only tolerate so many critical injuries to their stars.  This guy is an excellent LT.

 

I don’t have time to write down all the critical injuries to their starters, but just type in Baltimore ravens injuries update, and google will take you to an ESPN option.

 

Most fan bases can be myopic in looking how bad it is for their team, but if you start looking around the league, some years it’s worse for certain teams than not.  Look what happened to Detroit last year.

[Pete]

2 hours ago, EssexBill said:

AJ Brown?

Joe Don Looney?

[SCBills]

They have the Texans this weekend, Rams next weekend.  
 

Just a massive game for them with all the injuries and the potential to drop to 1-4.  
 

Worst part of their schedule for them to have these injuries as the schedule is much lighter on the back 1/3. 
 

Division is weak without Burrow, but Steelers look like they can get to 10-12 wins with the Browns & Bengals coming up and potentially getting to 5-1. 
 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by SCBills

[Captain Hindsight]

The Ravens will be 1-6 and their fans will be like “Lamar is the real MVP”

 

[4th&long]

I feel bad for them. The injuries are frustrating especially with the salary cap preventing teams from having decent backups. 

[Playoffs?]

We will be facing KC in the playoffs… again….

[Gregg]

Just now, Playoffs? said:

We will be facing KC in the playoffs… again….

 

If they do I hope, it's in OP

[Charles Romes]

I still can’t think of one NFL team that lost a prime career max contract type player for the season and went on to win it all.

 

The team that wins it all always seems to be the team with their best players healthy down the stretch. 

[fergie's ire]

7 hours ago, mannc said:

Honestly, I think the Ravens are done for this year.  And still no update on the mysterious Lamar hamstring injury…

You could be right....except who is going to win that division?  The Steelers?  They looked good this past Sunday, but, before that, I had not been impressed even in their wins.  And will Rodgers hold up?  So if not the Ravens and Steeler, what?  The Bengals look dreadful without Burrow.  The Browns?

[FireChans]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree. Roquan went out Sunday too, not heard an update yet. Reminder again that even some of the better teams in the league find 3 or 4 of their best players going down is too hard to overcome. Next man up is a cute theory. When it is your best guys it simply doesn't work. 

 

EDIT: worth adding as well that is even more the risk you take when you go for the stars and filler model of roster building. When I look at their roster I struggle to find a single spot where their depth is as good as the Bills depth. I can find plenty where their starters are better, sure, but their build relies a lot more on their guys staying healthy. I have been as critical as anyone of the Bills lack of stars, but it is right to credit them with their depth. 

The counter take is that the “stars and filler” means you can lose a lot of filler before it matters.

 

Is the Bills defense better off with Tre and Hairston healthy and Benford hurt or Benford healthy and both Tre and Hairston hurt?

[Process]

People are writing them off too early. Their schedule gets much easier after the next two weeks. They are in a weak division. The Texans stink. If Lamar plays they can easily win that game. 

 

They are still -400 to make the playoffs. 

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The counter take is that the “stars and filler” means you can lose a lot of filler before it matters.

 

Is the Bills defense better off with Tre and Hairston healthy and Benford hurt or Benford healthy and both Tre and Hairston hurt?

 

For sure. I am not saying one is right and one is wrong. My point was more the salary cap forces you to make some choices and then you need a bit of luck for those choices to work out.

[EssexBill]

49 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

I still can’t think of one NFL team that lost a prime career max contract type player for the season and went on to win it all.

 

The team that wins it all always seems to be the team with their best players healthy down the stretch. 

 

The eagles when Carson Wentz went down and Nick Foles tookover? I can't remember if Wentz was on big money then but I think he was in the MVP conversation around that time

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, EssexBill said:

 

The eagles when Carson Wentz went down and Nick Foles tookover? I can't remember if Wentz was on big money then but I think he was in the MVP conversation around that time

 

Wentz looked the next Josh Allen before that injury.  

Don't know what happened to him after.  It's not physical, he just can't mentally process the game anymore.