Game week thread - Pats at Bills SNF

[dcinmuncie]

5 minutes ago, buffblue said:

Not good on Strong. Other injuries looking more promising per McD on WGR

 

just a bad week to be named Dorian in buffalo i guess

[Beck Water]

9 minutes ago, dcinmuncie said:

just a bad week to be named Dorian in buffalo i guess

 

(flipping through Pats roster looking for players named Dorian)

[eball]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Did McD say anything about what happened with either Dorian?  (not that I'd expect him to, but a Girl can Hope

 

Not that I heard.

[PatsFanNH]

15 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

The Steelers defense that ranks bottom-5 in yards allowed per game (382.5) and bottom-third in points allowed (24.5)? That same unit let the Justin Fields-led Jets, the Sam Darnold-led Seahawks, and the Carson Wentz-led Vikings move the ball at will.

 

Meanwhile, Buffalo ranks 9th in yards allowed per game (290) - and that’s even with the 400+ they gave up in Week 1 against Baltimore. Since then, no opponent has topped 300 yards. The Bills just held those same Fields-led Jets to 150 total yards and 10 points, a week after New York hung 300 and 32.

 

I’m not saying it’ll be a blowout, but the idea that New England walks into Orchard Park on primetime and rolls up offense just because they did it against Pittsburgh feels… questionable.

Umm ok.. first the Pats SHOULD have been blown out by Pittsburgh. The offense played downright awful ball with 5 turnovers. (I can excuse the Maye INT since it was tipped at the line) the fact they were even still in that game boggles my mind..

 

That said against the ONLY good O your D has faced it gave up 40 points. After that you faced garbage teams just like NE has if we are honest we don’t know what either D is capable of yet. Why? The Bills after week 1 played well but against no one, while the Pats D didn’t pass the eye test the first 3 weeks but just got their CB1 back last week. (Pats have little Depth anywhere)

 

As I have said I expect the Bills to win Sunday but if the Pats don’t turn the ball over the game should be close and fun to watch.  (I mean this is the best team from this year both teams have faced.. the combined record of all our opponents Are 7-23 that’s god awful!)

[The Wiz]

8 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

(flipping through Pats roster looking for players named Dorian)

Just the team doctor

[bigduke6]

so Maye finally had one decent game,  and now the Bills are on upset alert everywhere?  never underestimate an opponent,  but come on.  theres people out there seriously comparing Maye to Allen.  smh.

[50yrpatsfan]

8 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

The Steelers D is truly looking more curtain than steel so far.

 

I don't think you should overlook that he's calling an offensive performance that featured 3 turnovers by the RBs, 2 turnovers by the QB, and 5 sacks "impressive".  The Bills D would be happy if they come in and do that here.

Yeah, the reason they lost that game was they coughed it up 5x, including twice inside the Steelers 2 yard line and another as they were moving toward the game winning score. But the point was that under McDaniels they're moving the ball much better than we've seen the past couple of years. How that looks in Buffalo is of keen interest to Pats fans. Nobody's really expecting a win, but a competitive 31-27 type of game is very possible. We feel like we have our QB, the OL is now fairly solid, and all the coaches are good.

7 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

so Maye finally had one decent game,  and now the Bills are on upset alert everywhere?  never underestimate an opponent,  but come on.  theres people out there seriously comparing Maye to Allen.  smh.

No QB runs like Allen. Maye has speed but he's looking to avoid contact. Maye's arm is good but a rung below Allen. 

[PatsFanNH]

23 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

so Maye finally had one decent game,  and now the Bills are on upset alert everywhere?  never underestimate an opponent,  but come on.  theres people out there seriously comparing Maye to Allen.  smh.

Umm take a look at his last 3 games.. he has over a 100 QBR in all 3 and has passed for 2 TD and over 200 Yards.. pretty dang good and the Steelers D is tougher than any D the Bills have faced so far this year as well.. so it’s not 1 good game it’s 3 good games in a row.

 

Is he Allen? Heck no! But he is a good up and coming QB with a ton of potential who feels like the next franchise QB.. (he showed flashes last year with a garbage OC and HC)

[YattaOkasan]

1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

I get EPA is the new hot metric, I personally think it's dumb for the most part though.

 

I remember that dolphins game last year Where the bills could not stop Miamis run game and basically offence overall- And They got graded a high  EPA in that game.. 

 

Which makes no sense to me as anyone who watched that game knew they couldn't stop a nose bleed

what does new hot metric mean?  its years old, sorta why i could explain.  PFR (which does it a bit different) did not have the defense with a good EPA that game.  Offense and ST combined were what won the game, which tracks from my recollection.  

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

I'd just like to point out that if we actually had a defense that couldn't get off the field, the Saints wouldn't have punted in the 1Q, punted in the 2nd Q, been intercepted, and been held to a field goal in the 2Q, and punted again to lead off the 3Q (all while our offense was trying to decode this modern advance called "zone coverage"), ending the game with two TOD.

Bills allowed conversion of 5 out of 13 (38%) 3rd D and 0 out of 2 4 D.

 

I'm not saying that the defense is perfect or even good.  But the above "can't get off the field" is a simplistic exaggeration.

 

I too hope we see a more focused, on point team this Sunday.  I know these guys are professionals, but when you're playing a team that just got its ass handed to them the previous week with a 44-13 loss, part of the player's brains have to be going "yeah, yeah" during game plan install during the week.

 

On the other hand, when you're playing a team that was just on the winning side of a 42-13 drubbing, it's easier to give it your full and serious attention and the danger is that (like the fans here) part of your brain says "doomed!".  Hopefully the team is 1000x more resilient than the fans are.
 

 

Dude, I explicitly posted about why I knew that fun fact.  It's in the last para of my post.  716 caught it, so I know I didn't send it in invisible electrons.

i didn't connect the dots.  

 

maybe i wasn't awake yet.

[BillsFan130]

26 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

what does new hot metric mean?  its years old, sorta why i could explain.  PFR (which does it a bit different) did not have the defense with a good EPA that game.  Offense and ST combined were what won the game, which tracks from my recollection.  

Hot meaning everyone seems to be using it the last few years or so.
 

I remember listening to Joe Marino last year after that dolphin game and he was going off saying the EPA was good

 

But let's put it this way- If we are using PFF analytics to determine whether a defence is good or bad, that's not exactly the most credible source lol

[GoBills808]

19 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Hot meaning everyone seems to be using it the last few years or so.
 

I remember listening to Joe Marino last year after that dolphin game and he was going off saying the EPA was good

 

But let's put it this way- If we are using PFF analytics to determine whether a defence is good or bad, that's not exactly the most credible source lol

EPA is not a pff metric

[PatsFanNH]

18 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Hot meaning everyone seems to be using it the last few years or so.
 

I remember listening to Joe Marino last year after that dolphin game and he was going off saying the EPA was good

 

But let's put it this way- If we are using PFF analytics to determine whether a defence is good or bad, that's not exactly the most credible source lol

IMO use the most reliable test for your team.. your eyes.. I see plenty flaws in my Pats D and alone so much potential in the O that has made dumb errors to stop them.

[gordong]

53 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Umm take a look at his last 3 games.. he has over a 100 QBR in all 3 and has passed for 2 TD and over 200 Yards.. pretty dang good and the Steelers D is tougher than any D the Bills have faced so far this year as well.. so it’s not 1 good game it’s 3 good games in a row.

 

Is he Allen? Heck no! But he is a good up and coming QB with a ton of potential who feels like the next franchise QB.. (he showed flashes last year with a garbage OC and HC)

the steelers have the 5th worst defense yards wise in the NFL give me a break better then any defense the bills have faced..  they gave up 394 yards to the jets for christ sake talk about a delusional take

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, buffblue said:

Not good on Strong. Other injuries looking more promising per McD on WGR

 

We are not allowed to have a full defense. 

Its against the rules. 

[Rockinon]

1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

Umm take a look at his last 3 games.. he has over a 100 QBR in all 3 and has passed for 2 TD and over 200 Yards.. pretty dang good and the Steelers D is tougher than any D the Bills have faced so far this year as well.. so it’s not 1 good game it’s 3 good games in a row.

 

Is he Allen? Heck no! But he is a good up and coming QB with a ton of potential who feels like the next franchise QB.. (he showed flashes last year with a garbage OC and HC)

You sure about that? The Jets moved the ball pretty easy against them.

[Success]

I kind of prefer Strong over Tre - but I believe Tre has been getting most of the snaps regardless.  Strong isn't a huge loss this week.

 

If Oliver, Milano and Brown all end up playing, we're in as good a shape as you can be at this point of the season.

 

[PatsFanNH]

13 minutes ago, gordong said:

the steelers have the 5th worst defense yards wise in the NFL give me a break better then any defense the bills have faced..  they gave up 394 yards to the jets for christ sake talk about a delusional take

Sigh you’re right only the Ravens, Saints, Jets are worse the dolphins are two spots higher than them.  Hell I will do one better the Steelers have more wins than EVERY team the Bills face have combined! Both the Pats and Bills schedule is scary easy.. and I will  say again the Steelers D is better than the 4 you have faced.. 
 

 

[hondo in seattle]

3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

always “interesting” to see Kurt warner’s breakdowns. I will say he does make some insightful points about how these receivers ought to be running their routes and what the right or better reads are. 
 

That said, I have always found his analyses to be overly critical of QBs. Eg, Maye completes a 30-yard strike to Diggs and Warner points out that the better read was a receiver on the other side of the field. Fair point. But it’s easy to second guess everything from a film breakdown.

 

I agree Kurt's overly critical.  And, yet, I think it would be great if Kurt and Josh watched tape together in the offseason.  Perfection can never be achieved but it ought to be pursued.  

[YoloinOhio]

Local radio picking NE. They said the Bills haven’t played anybody. And one of them is a ravens fan. Anyway …