Thurman#1 Posted September 12 Posted September 12 I was watching the game again and noticed something on Henry's fumble. He's been getting so much positive feedback on all those straightarms that he used it when he shouldn't have. Those appear on the highlights all season long, and you can bet he knows that, and gets all kinds of hero worship for them. As he should, really, but sometimes there are consequences. Oliver is headed right towards him in the backfield. Henry puts the ball in his left hand and immediately goes for the straight-arm with his right hand. That was a mistake. Oliver's right arm is free. He's got an OL leaning on his left side, but his right hand, the one closest to Henry's ball hand, it's free. Henry's play there is to wrap his right hand around the ball and cover with two hands. He didn't, and Ed made him pay. He should be coached when NOT to use the straight-arm. That was not the time, it was a time to be careful. They should also coach him that the guys he successfully straight-arms are mostly safeties, CBs and an occasional LB. Guys smaller than Henry himself. Oliver may be small for a DT, but he's bigger and stronger than Henry. 8 3 1 Quote
unbillievable Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Henry has a very low fumble rate. He's a 10yr vet at RB. He's going to get a brief conversation but no coach is going to worry about changing his running style at this point in his career. 10 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted September 12 Posted September 12 They’ll just give him a Snickers bar https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOXAWxaCTTY/?igsh=MXBjc29nbWZjenV4OQ== 2 Quote
RyanC883 Posted September 12 Posted September 12 please post this advice after the season, or never ! 5 Quote
RochesterLifer Posted September 12 Posted September 12 7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: I was watching the game again and noticed something on Henry's fumble. He's been getting so much positive feedback on all those straightarms that he used it when he shouldn't have. Those appear on the highlights all season long, and you can bet he knows that, and gets all kinds of hero worship for them. As he should, really, but sometimes there are consequences. Arm arrogance 3 9 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 12 Posted September 12 (edited) If Henry doesn’t realize that at 31 then he never will. That’s the benefit of having a savvy vet like Oliver. Only experience allows you to make a split second decision like that to realize all of those details. And it won a very important game. Even if Ed has to sit out a few weeks it worth it as I think the Bills will coast on the offense these next few games. The injuries will start really mattering towards playoff time. Edited September 12 by ChronicAndKnuckles 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted September 12 Posted September 12 10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: I was watching the game again and noticed something on Henry's fumble. He's been getting so much positive feedback on all those straightarms that he used it when he shouldn't have. Those appear on the highlights all season long, and you can bet he knows that, and gets all kinds of hero worship for them. As he should, really, but sometimes there are consequences. Oliver is headed right towards him in the backfield. Henry puts the ball in his left hand and immediately goes for the straight-arm with his right hand. That was a mistake. Oliver's right arm is free. He's got an OL leaning on his left side, but his right hand, the one closest to Henry's ball hand, it's free. Henry's play there is to wrap his right hand around the ball and cover with two hands. He didn't, and Ed made him pay. He should be coached when NOT to use the straight-arm. That was not the time, it was a time to be careful. They should also coach him that the guys he successfully straight-arms are mostly safeties, CBs and an occasional LB. Guys smaller than Henry himself. Oliver may be small for a DT, but he's bigger and stronger than Henry. just because he messed up one play in the moment at full speed doesn’t mean he’s poorly coached on it or big headed. Life happens and he’s an absolutely elite talent. Until it’s a trend, it’s nothing. 2 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted September 12 Posted September 12 He definitely deserves a stern talking to 2 Quote
kitchen sink Posted September 12 Posted September 12 22 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: He definitely deserves a stern talking to Or at least a stiff arm! 2 Quote
gregmo Posted September 12 Posted September 12 His right hand was also on the facemask, not grabbing, but yeah, he should have been smarter when running into traffic. Great play by Oliver to punch the ball out. Quote
dcinmuncie Posted September 12 Posted September 12 His fumble rate is ridiculously low it’s not ‘arrogance’ if it literally almost always works Quote
Thurman#1 Posted September 13 Author Posted September 13 (edited) On 9/12/2025 at 5:08 PM, unbillievable said: Henry has a very low fumble rate. He's a 10yr vet at RB. He's going to get a brief conversation but no coach is going to worry about changing his running style at this point in his career. Nobody's asking for him to change his style. Or to eliminate all straight-arms. But yeah, when they get to you in the backfield, and it's a DL that's on you, that's not the time for him to be straight-arming. It just isn't. I'm very very sure they will coach him up on that. But it should never have happened. IMO this is partly a result of the fawning he hears when he gets a highlight play from a straight-arm. 18 hours ago, RochesterLifer said: Arm arrogance Heh heh. This. 15 hours ago, NoSaint said: just because he messed up one play in the moment at full speed doesn’t mean he’s poorly coached on it or big headed. Life happens and he’s an absolutely elite talent. Until it’s a trend, it’s nothing. It's not nothing. It's a bad play, a mental mistake. A bad play that probably cost his team the game. Elite players make them too. And then do their best to iron out the problem. 11 hours ago, dcinmuncie said: His fumble rate is ridiculously low it’s not ‘arrogance’ if it literally almost always works Can you point out where I used the word arrogance? I did chuckle at RochesterLifer's joke there. But I wasn't trying to imply arrogance so much as a bit of wanting to see himself on "Angry Runs" again this week, maybe allowing his excitement about the great feedback he usually gets about that tactic to twist his sense of when it's good to use it. And I would argue that "it" doesn't almost always work, if "it" refers to using the straight-arm in the backfield when already in the grip of a DL who's larger than him. I'm sure his coaches won't be telling him never to use the straight-arm again. But almost surely they've already told him there are times when it's just a bad idea, and he's got to better figure out when those times are. Still a terrific runner, though. Edited September 13 by Thurman#1 2 Quote
finn Posted September 13 Posted September 13 An instance where it wasn't a mistake for Henry to use the stiff arm but rather it didn't help him was Dorian Strong's TD-saving tackle along the sideline of Henry in the second quarter (11:14). Henry was barreling along and tried to stiff-arm Strong, but Strong just knocked his arm away and made the tackle. Compare to Bishop's missed tackle on Henry's TD run at the 13:30 mark. Bishop actually did smash Henry's arm down, but it looks like he had taken a slightly wrong angle and he was too far behind Henry to drive into him. An instructive comparison for the Bills secondary. Strong showed hustle (he was the off corner), speed, and excellent tackling form. Maybe he should play safety. Quote
Buffalo03 Posted September 13 Posted September 13 (edited) On 9/12/2025 at 3:55 AM, Thurman#1 said: I was watching the game again and noticed something on Henry's fumble. He's been getting so much positive feedback on all those straightarms that he used it when he shouldn't have. Those appear on the highlights all season long, and you can bet he knows that, and gets all kinds of hero worship for them. As he should, really, but sometimes there are consequences. Oliver is headed right towards him in the backfield. Henry puts the ball in his left hand and immediately goes for the straight-arm with his right hand. That was a mistake. Oliver's right arm is free. He's got an OL leaning on his left side, but his right hand, the one closest to Henry's ball hand, it's free. Henry's play there is to wrap his right hand around the ball and cover with two hands. He didn't, and Ed made him pay. He should be coached when NOT to use the straight-arm. That was not the time, it was a time to be careful. They should also coach him that the guys he successfully straight-arms are mostly safeties, CBs and an occasional LB. Guys smaller than Henry himself. Oliver may be small for a DT, but he's bigger and stronger than Henry. You confuse me when you say "straight arm". It's stiff arm. If I heard more people say "he got straight armed" my first response would he "he got what?" Edited September 14 by Buffalo03 1 Quote
Augie Posted September 13 Posted September 13 2 hours ago, nuklz2594 said: Henry is a mlb running the ball ….except they don’t make MLBs that way any more. Hence, the mismatch. 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted September 13 Posted September 13 Henry is very good with the ball, maybe one more fumble all season. Ray Davis is good with the ball as well. Quote
nedboy7 Posted September 13 Posted September 13 I dropped him in fantasy. I dont play losers. 1 Quote
RunTheBall Posted September 13 Posted September 13 I don’t think Henry gives a sht about angry runs or making highlights. The guy is a first ballot hall of famer. He wants a ring. You are projecting. Should he have covered up? Sure. That’s his style, this time it cost him. I suspect the coaches don’t need to say a thing, he knows he blew it. 1 Quote
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