Rams extend RB Kyren Williams - 3-year, $33 million

[chris heff]

4 hours ago, Walking Tall said:

I see Cook better as he is more explosive.

That maybe, but I think I saw somewhere that Williams played about 80% of snaps and Cook about 50%.

[HamptonBillsfan]

5 hours ago, Kaenon said:

Cook on the same deal. 🤝 

Cook is better and has produced in the postseason. Why are you so reluctant to give him a couple million more to make him feel wanted?  Penny pinching while we went over the top on the D-line. You guys deserve the mediocrity we’ve dealt with since Thurman.

[chris heff]

4 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

How do we know what offer the Bills made?

I could head over to Pegula’s place in Boca and rummage through his stuff again. Pretty sure they are in Buffalo.

[Pete]

 

[Billzgobowlin]

5 hours ago, Walking Tall said:

Cook is a bit better but that’s a good baseline. 12.5-13 million is the highest I’d go with Cook.

Cook isn't better, he has a better line.  We swap out Cook with Davis and we won't miss a beat.  Davis has been a better receiver and harder runner.  Cook is screwing it up by asking for too much.

5 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Cook is better and has produced in the postseason. Why are you so reluctant to give him a couple million more to make him feel wanted?  Penny pinching while we went over the top on the D-line. You guys deserve the mediocrity we’ve dealt with since Thurman.

They are already in Salary Cap trouble with better RBs in the backfield than Cook. 

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Cool. Not a necessity.

You need to call Thurman.

[Sojourner]

25 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

“No shade to Cook” then immediately throws shade at him 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Not really shade to Cook because it’s primarily his agent than him. 

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[HamptonBillsfan]

3 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Cook isn't better, he has a better line.  We swap out Cook with Davis and we won't miss a beat.  Davis has been a better receiver and harder runner.  Cook is screwing it up by asking for too much.

They are already in Salary Cap trouble with better RBs in the backfield than Cook. 

You’re embarrassing yourself with these frivolous mutterings. What season stats does Davis have as a featured back. He had one good game. A better receiver and a harder runner? Cook had 16 TDs and 1000yds on 200 carries. Do you just gag up these silly comments for shock value. This is useless.

[SoonerBillsFan]

16 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Cook is better and has produced in the postseason. Why are you so reluctant to give him a couple million more to make him feel wanted?  Penny pinching while we went over the top on the D-line. You guys deserve the mediocrity we’ve dealt with since Thurman.

This has to be a burner account for someone.

Just now, Sojourner said:

Not really shade to Cook because it’s primarily his agent than him. 

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Dont for get his brother. Plenty of shade under the tree for both

[Rockpile233]

I think it’s more likely that Beane doesn’t want to pay this market rate on Cook. Seems hard to believe Cook’s camp is so delusional based on his role and production as to expect a significantly higher contract than this Williams deal.

 

 

[RochesterLifer]

7 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

You’re embarrassing yourself with these frivolous mutterings. 

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I spend my whole life frivolously muttering. It's a self-medicating sanity tool. "Grumble, grumble, brumble, burgerflickle..."

[<bills4life>]

5 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

You’re embarrassing yourself with these frivolous mutterings. What season stats does Davis have as a featured back. He had one good game. A better receiver and a harder runner? Cook had 16 TDs and 1000yds on 200 carries. Do you just gag up these silly comments for shock value. This is useless.

Yeah and the two years previous he averaged 800 yds and 2 tds per season.  Cook had 1 great season.  Let’s not act like he is a bonafide superstar.  While Davis may not have the home run capability, as a full time starter he would easily replicate cook’s first two seasons.  Especially with this line. 

[Walking Tall]

23 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Cook isn't better, he has a better line.  We swap out Cook with Davis and we won't miss a beat.  Davis has been a better receiver and harder runner.  Cook is screwing it up by asking for too much.

They are already in Salary Cap trouble with better RBs in the backfield than Cook. 

Yeah, that must be why Cook averaged almost half a yard better after contact, had almost a yard better per carry and had 4 runs over 40 yards or more while Williams had zero. All the time while Cook was on the field a lot less and had a lot less touches.

Edited August 5 by Walking Tall

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, BeastMaster said:

Eyeballs doesn't work in negotiations FWIW 

 

Also, one guy is a complete back that never leaves the field, so when one guy can't do that it's hard to claim he's better

 

More explosive, yes. Not necessarily better

More complete doesn’t necessarilyean better either.  But w/e floats your boat

 

id take cook over Williams every day and twice on Sunday 

[Victory Formation]

2 yrs $22M

[Jay_Fixit]

5 hours ago, stlbills13 said:

If they had the same deal, which player would you rather have?

Kyren

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, GerstAusGosheim said:

If you don't have an ELITE RB, don't pay north of 10m per year. Especially when you have a bunch of JAGs at WR and TE.

 

Here's my question - would the money used on Cook actually go towards upgrading the WRs? Or would it go towards more defensive depth, 30+ year old defensive linemen and the like? I think the history of this regime tells you which way that would go. That's why I've come to lean towards paying Cook, I don't think that money is going to be spent better so might as well lock up the one consistently explosive player we have around Josh.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Here's my question - would the money used on Cook actually go towards upgrading the WRs? Or would it go towards more defensive depth, 30+ year old defensive linemen and the like? I think the history of this regime tells you which way that would go. That's why I've come to lean towards paying Cook, I don't think that money is going to be spent better so might as well lock up the one consistently explosive player we have around Josh.

best argument for paying him ive seen thus far

[uticaclub]

Add some void years and let’s go

[Fan boy '92]

J Cook is flashier, but Kyren gonna get you those tough 3rd down yards that Josh has to now.