Training Camp 8/3

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, TBBills Fan said:

A running back in the NFL has ONE chance for the most part to get paid.  

 

Linemen have 10 plus year careers.  It's not the same. 

 

A running back takes more of a beating than Iinemen. Linemen deliver the beating. 

 

Respectfully I'm not sure I buy your first point. I was just using Edwards and McGovern as examples.

 

If you're a good receiver, you're going to be playing in the nfl for 10 years. But yet they hold out all the time in contract years.

 

[GuardianAngel]

25 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

Or....

 

It's just business.  

 

It's in his financial and personal best Interest to go into the season 100%, and to have an amazing year. 

 

He has witnessed quite a few injuries at camp. 

 

He is there. So he's working out and in meetings.

 

Seems like it's nothing personal and just business

 

 

I don't think I've ever heard a player actively sit in and call it business just because they don't want to get hurt. It's football, for better or worse injuries will happen. 

 

 

Also this body language doesn't scream "I wanna be here". It, to me, says "I'm only here so I don't get fined." and has nothing to do with injury. 

[Brand J]

9 minutes ago, GuardianAngel said:

I don't think I've ever heard a player actively sit in and call it business just because they don't want to get hurt. It's football, for better or worse injuries will happen. 

 

 

Also this body language doesn't scream "I wanna be here". It, to me, says "I'm only here so I don't get fined." and has nothing to do with injury. 

I would imagine on some level sitting out would have to be extremely difficult for Cook. Even if the discourse is over money, the one thing injured players say is the toughest thing about being injured is watching your teammates move on without you. The NFL doesn’t wait until you’re healthy or contracts are settled. If you’re not on the field, someone else will be and they’ll be taking all of your reps. Has to eat at him, I’d guess his agent suggested the “hold in” if that’s what he’s doing.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Seems weird to pull a “business” stunt at this stage of camp? Dont get what leverage he thinks he has, and the timing seems off anyway if that’s your play after going gung ho to start camp, but what do I know, I’m no agent. 🤨

[GuardianAngel]

2 minutes ago, Brand J said:

I would imagine on some level sitting out would have to be extremely difficult for Cook. Even if the discourse is over money, the one thing injured players say is the toughest thing about being injured is watching your teammates move on without you. The NFL doesn’t wait until you’re healthy or contracts are settled. If you’re not on the field, someone else will be and they’ll be taking all of your reps. Has to eat at him, I’d guess his agent suggested the “hold in” if that’s what he’s doing.

I don't doubt for a second that him sitting out isn't eating at him, like you said, someone else will gladly take that spot to show that they can do it. I do, in the end, think all of it is about the contract and not really anything else. It's just the timing and suddenness of being on board to then holding in/out is a bit odd to me when you start to consider the potential trades that have or have not become available. 

If we really want to get tin foily, maybe Beane told him sign or get traded and he's calling the bluff or something. But that is far to fantastical for what is actually probably going on which is just a simple contract scuffle. Though again, the timing is very odd to me but I'm neither him nor his agent.

[BillsFan130]

14 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Seems weird to pull a “business” stunt at this stage of camp? Dont get what leverage he thinks he has, and the timing seems off anyway if that’s your play after going gung ho to start camp, but what do I know, I’m no agent. 🤨

Ya exactly- He's got 0 leverage.

 

And the more time he misses, the more chance for rust he will have to start the season. Not exactly smart in a contract year IMO

[Alphadawg7]

43 minutes ago, GuardianAngel said:

I don't think I've ever heard a player actively sit in and call it business just because they don't want to get hurt. It's football, for better or worse injuries will happen. 

 

 

Also this body language doesn't scream "I wanna be here". It, to me, says "I'm only here so I don't get fined." and has nothing to do with injury. 

He has made it clear multiple times he wants to be here.  No need to over analyze his body language:  

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

He has made it clear multiple times he wants to be here.  No need to over analyze his body language:  

Folks who don't like or appreciate him are going to continue to do so. I don't get the impression that Beane or anyone on the Bills' team is in that camp.

[TBBills Fan]

46 minutes ago, GuardianAngel said:

I don't think I've ever heard a player actively sit in and call it business just because they don't want to get hurt. It's football, for better or worse injuries will happen. 

 

 

Also this body language doesn't scream "I wanna be here". It, to me, says "I'm only here so I don't get fined." and has nothing to do with injury. 

 

34 minutes ago, Brand J said:

I would imagine on some level sitting out would have to be extremely difficult for Cook. Even if the discourse is over money, the one thing injured players say is the toughest thing about being injured is watching your teammates move on without you. The NFL doesn’t wait until you’re healthy or contracts are settled. If you’re not on the field, someone else will be and they’ll be taking all of your reps. Has to eat at him, I’d guess his agent suggested the “hold in” if that’s what he’s doing.

 

Brand J shared my same thoughts.  This is an insanely competitive business. 

[GuardianAngel]

6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

He has made it clear multiple times he wants to be here.  No need to over analyze his body language:  

I'm not really reading into it that hard because I know he's said multiple times he wants to be here, just some light speculation, or at least...

 

5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Folks who don't like or appreciate him are going to continue to do so. I don't get the impression that Beane or anyone on the Bills' team is in that camp.

I thought it was light speculation.

I've said it and I'll say it again, I want him to stay a Buffalo Bill, and I think he should've already gotten paid. I just like playing with what ifs when the only thing you can do is wait and see.

[BananaB]

Who the ***** is in charge of loosening these guys up before practice? 

[Doc Brown]

13 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Folks who don't like or appreciate him are going to continue to do so. I don't get the impression that Beane or anyone on the Bills' team is in that camp.

I appreciate him but don't want to pay him.  I hope he gets the bag next year.  Also, his body language is always like that.  

[balln]

This is a ploy. Pure and simple. I surmise that the deal is super close. Yet not done. And cook and co have decided the best thing to do is just hold in. 
 

and. I have no gripes with that what so ever. WHO GAF about training camp? For the elite players and established players it really doesn’t matter. Most of camp Is lollygagging vs air and without pads. All you want is to install , in this case all same coordinators and coaches, new wrinkles. And of course stay healthy.

 

lets keep in mind it got so bad that they cut preaseason down to 3 games. And really only play 1.5. The last game is your usual undrafted palooza yawn fest.

 

so Mr Beane make the deal or don’t. Cook is playing the exact way and only way he can.  Stay as healthy as he possibly can for the regular season and try and yield whatever little leverage you can to get deal done

Edited Monday at 12:54 AM by balln

[The Firebaugh Kid]

My Bills group text explodes with “yo momma b*tch” messages every time we score. 

I figured now might be a really good time to bring that up.

Edited Monday at 01:31 AM by The Firebaugh Kid

[Herc11]

7 hours ago, Brand J said:

How did mothers get involved in this thread? Family attacks should be off limits. 

That joke really flew over your head. It's about you being a loser and living in your mom's basement as an adult. 

 

No I'm not calling you a loser, just trying to explain what that joke was about.

[Brand J]

3 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

My Bills group text explodes with “yo momma b*tch” messages every time we score. 

I figured now might be a really good time to bring that up.

Just gonna say this one last thing and be done with it… I grew up around trash talkers myself and know the jokes. They actually had a comedy show back in the day called “Snaps” it was only “yo momma” jokes. The show was hilarious.

 

When I clicked on this thread hoping to see the day’s training camp news, I came across MWK’s poor attack on one of our own and then the (rightful) barrage of criticism levied his way. I didn’t respond after reading the first “momma in the basement” comment, but felt compelled to say something after reading the second. There’s a difference between a joke (the “sensitive momma” clap back eball said to me) versus attacking a poster with a cut down that relies on bringing up their mother. One is clearly a joke, the other is a diss, and I felt referencing one’s mother in an ill intentioned cut down had no place here. As it turns out, MWK’s mother has passed, so it also should’ve served as a “foot in mouth” moment for eball (and for the other posters with their thumbs down and roll eye emojis).
 

That’s my take on it.

[Mikie2times]

31 minutes ago, Brand J said:

Just gonna say this one last thing and be done with it… I grew up around trash talkers myself and know the jokes. They actually had a comedy show back in the day called “Snaps” it was only “yo momma” jokes. The show was hilarious.

 

When I clicked on this thread hoping to see the day’s training camp news, I came across MWK’s poor attack on one of our own and then the (rightful) barrage of criticism levied his way. I didn’t respond after reading the first “momma in the basement” comment, but felt compelled to say something after reading the second. There’s a difference between a joke (the “sensitive momma” clap back eball said to me) versus attacking a poster with a cut down that relies on bringing up their mother. One is clearly a joke, the other is a diss, and I felt referencing one’s mother in an ill intentioned cut down had no place here. As it turns out, MWK’s mother has passed, so it also should’ve served as a “foot in mouth” moment for eball (and for the other posters with their thumbs down and roll eye emojis).
 

That’s my take on it.

I don't think insulting somebody's mom after they passed is a foot in the mouth moment. You miss a 100% of the shots you don't take. We have people here striving for excellence. 

[Royale with Cheese]

2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Folks who don't like or appreciate him are going to continue to do so. I don't get the impression that Beane or anyone on the Bills' team is in that camp.

Josh Allen is in Cook’s camp.

 

I just don’t think Beane wants to invest a good amount of change to a RB when we run a lot of two TE sets and 6 OL a lot.

He wants to keep building the trenches because that is the difference between us and the Chiefs.  They know it too because look what we did this offseason.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Imagine if every single player had that mindset though. Didn't practice because it was "business "?

 

I am sure McGovern, David Edwards and guys like that are worried about injuries in a contract year. But they still show up and practice 

Not every player is as critical as Cook. 

[Rocky Landing]

4 hours ago, GuardianAngel said:

I don't think I've ever heard a player actively sit in and call it business just because they don't want to get hurt. It's football, for better or worse injuries will happen. 

 

 

Also this body language doesn't scream "I wanna be here". It, to me, says "I'm only here so I don't get fined." and has nothing to do with injury. 

He's walking around in street clothes watching all his teammates play football. What would you expect his body language to look like???