Report: Micah Parsons requests a trade

[Brand J]

1 hour ago, tigerthelion said:

Parsons is an odd case to me.  His sack numbers are impressive, and he is considered a star, but I am never really overwhelmed by watching him in games, especially playoff games.   In recent years, I didn't see him really making an impact on playoff games.  A guy like him, who is considered a superstar, should be impacting games more, IMO.   

He typically has the opposing offense’s full attention.

[Blank Stare]

Won’t happen because Jerry is a douche canoe, but I’d make anyone, outside of Josh, available in a trade. Who you want?

[thenorthremembers]

4 minutes ago, Blank Stare said:

Won’t happen because Jerry is a douche canoe, but I’d make anyone, outside of Josh, available in a trade. Who you want?

I wanted to commend you on the douche canoe thing and didn't think a thumbs up really spoke to how much I truly enjoyed it.  Well played.

[SoonerBillsFan]

16 minutes ago, Brand J said:

He typically has the opposing offense’s full attention.

Which is something we need

[dayman]

Elam used to command the whole offenses attention as well

[SoonerBillsFan]

33 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Beane used to invest significantly in WR but basically stopped since the Diggs trade.

 

I think there’s an argument he felt burned by having a star #1 WR.

He needs to get the hell over it, all of them do.  We need a real WR that demands a DC's respect

[Mango]

38 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Beane used to invest significantly in WR but basically stopped since the Diggs trade.

 

I think there’s an argument he felt burned by having a star #1 WR.

 

It's a cost issue, when you pay the QB the QB is required to fill the holes in the cost gap. Similar to say KC or NE.

 

The problem is, and continues to be, we've really struggled to hit on enough of our defensive picks. We continue to redraft roles over and over and over and over again. Basham, AJE, Oliver, Rousseau, Phillips,Carter, Sanders, Jackson, Elam, Hairston.

 

You can even add Davis, Moss, Cook, Knox and Kincaid to the list.

 

Those are all the top 100 picks we've had to draft and redraft because they've under performed. Everytime we have to go back to the well to redraft another top 100 pick at the same exact position means we also lose on addressing another issue on the roster.

 

I like McBeane, but this issue is enemy number one for this roster getting over the hump.

[RoscoeParrish]

9 minutes ago, Mango said:

It's a cost issue, when you pay the QB the QB is required to fill the holes in the cost gap. Similar to say KC or NE.

Not really. 
 

KC has drafted way more WRs since Mahomes became Mahomes. They haven’t hit on all of them, because no one does. Drafted players aren’t a cost issue.

 

Beane eschews the position, even in the draft.

 

Philly with their dark cap magic is managing to pay 2 WRs and their QB. But they have probably the most aggressive owner in the league, so that’s not Beane’s fault.

[Mango]

6 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Not really. 
 

KC has drafted way more WRs since Mahomes became Mahomes. They haven’t hit on all of them, because no one does. Drafted players aren’t a cost issue.

 

Beane eschews the position, even in the draft.

 

Philly with their dark cap magic is managing to pay 2 WRs and their QB. But they have probably the most aggressive owner in the league, so that’s not Beane’s fault.

 

Right, the Bills and Chiefs have a little bit of a similar problem, but when you miss on the offensive side of the ball and your QB is Allen/Mahomes you can cover the mistake.

 

If KC drafted better on the offensive side of the football they would have likely won the last 3 SB's.

 

If the Bills swapped defensive drafts with KC and left their offensive unit the same they'd likely be in a SB by now if not win one.

 

I don't think Beane is deliberately ignoring WR. We just keep losing because of the defense and Allen keeps doing more than enough to win a SB.

 

Philly isn't a comp because Hurts is still running his early contract numbers. He's the 16th highest cap hit among QB's. He's average. I will be curious to see if he can close the gap once his cap number spikes into the top 5. From what I've seen I don't think he will. But he has time, albeit dwindling.

 

[BillsFanForever19]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

No one has reported on the Bills actually offering, so that’s out of left field, but the Packers have been reported by multiple outlets to have offered and been rejected. 
 

 

 

 

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

 

Yea, I saw that.  And have no idea of the Bills made an offer - it certainly hasnt been reported anywhere.  
 

But the Packers absolutely have.  Its been reported by multiple outlets. 

[Sierra Foothills]

3 hours ago, 26TrapDraw said:

I wouldn't do this trade if it was Parsons for a 5th the dude is an absolute egomaniac and is not a process guy at all.

 

Didn't Diggs teach us anything?

 

Who's Diggs?

 

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, Blank Stare said:

Won’t happen because Jerry is a douche canoe, but I’d make anyone, outside of Josh, available in a trade. Who you want?

What the hell is a douche canoe?

[Captain Hindsight]

8 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

What the hell is a douche canoe?

Jerry jones 

 

and most jets fans

Edited August 21 by Captain Hindsight

[Blank Stare]

14 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

What the hell is a douche canoe?

Noun or a verb? 

 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Douche+Canoe
 

My favorite among them being:

The vessel used by a douche bag to travel up douche creek to douchetown to visit the family of Douchery’s to celebrate Douchemas.

 

[Special K]

33 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

What the hell is a douche canoe?

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

4 hours ago, 26TrapDraw said:

you're High that's way too much to give up. Groot will have a great year this year mark it down. Oliver but be enticing to the Cowgirls . 

I wouldn't do this trade if it was Parsons for a 5th the dude is an absolute egomaniac and is not a process guy at all. Didn't Diggs teach us anything?

LOL you’re out of your mind. I’m as big a Parsons critic as any due to his poor run defense, but he would instantly make the Bills SB favorites by a landslide. 

[gonzo1105]

Have the Bills placed a call I would say it’s likely. Has it gone beyond that I doubt it. 
 

This just reeks of Myles Garrett who wanted to be traded so badly until he got the money he felt he deserved. I assume Dallas and Parsons will figure something out. Jones has done this with all his top players. 
 

If, for whatever reason he does get moved at least the Bills are A. In the AFC and B. Have a good trading relationship with the Cowboys based on history. 
 

The Bills would probably have to give up the Khalil Mack deal plus inflation. 
 

The Mack deal was: 

 

Bears received:

Mack

2nd Rounder

Conditional 5th

 

Raiders received:

1st round pick

1st round pick

3rd round pick

6th round pick

 

I’m thinking 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 4th for Parsons, a 3rd, and a 5th makes sense based on the similarities of the Mack deal plus inflation 

 

 

[RoscoeParrish]

3 hours ago, Mango said:

 

Right, the Bills and Chiefs have a little bit of a similar problem, but when you miss on the offensive side of the ball and your QB is Allen/Mahomes you can cover the mistake.

 

If KC drafted better on the offensive side of the football they would have likely won the last 3 SB's.

 

If the Bills swapped defensive drafts with KC and left their offensive unit the same they'd likely be in a SB by now if not win one.

 

I don't think Beane is deliberately ignoring WR. We just keep losing because of the defense and Allen keeps doing more than enough to win a SB.

 

Philly isn't a comp because Hurts is still running his early contract numbers. He's the 16th highest cap hit among QB's. He's average. I will be curious to see if he can close the gap once his cap number spikes into the top 5. From what I've seen I don't think he will. But he has time, albeit dwindling.

 

You are still missing that the Chiefs have targeted the WR position much more than the Bills in the draft. The Bills choose to try, and sometimes fail, drafting defensive positions as a priority. And when they fail, instead of chasing WRs, they go first round CB, again. That’s a clear underprioritization of WR. 

 

You are also missing that Josh Allen had pretty small cap hits for the past 5 years. Heck, our GM felt very comfortable paying Diggs massive through 2026 with his extension that we ate a ton of dead money to get out of. Now, it’s a money issue? I don’t buy it.

[BillsShredder83]

14 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Beane used to invest significantly in WR but basically stopped since the Diggs trade.

 

I think there’s an argument he felt burned by having a star #1 WR.

My brother in Christ..... what?  No GM is letting the Diggs BS in the last year overshadow what that trade did for this franchise and Josh.  If 13 seconds doesnt happen I think we'd have got our first ring... thats not even counting the 2 other very productive years out of Stef.