Who’s the Superstar?

[14774]

Reggie Gilliam

Brady is going to start giving him short-yardage carries in the Red Zone to save Allen/Cook/Davis. He'll steam-roll for 20 TDs and people will compare him to "the Bus". 🤣

[Kirby Jackson]

The Bills “likeliest” guys to elevate to “superstar” don’t play positions that we associate with superstars. Benford is the obvious choice. Ed Oliver has the ability to ascend into the elite tier. Spencer Brown is one of the game’s best RTs. James Cook is the one skill player that could become a superstar but a lot of Bills fans don’t like him because he wants a contract extension. They don’t have any edge rushers or WRs that belong near the conversation. The edge rushers and pass catchers don’t belong near the “star” conversation, forget about superstar. I’ll say Cook strictly based on position. If he ever plays on 3rd downs he could become one of the top 5 RBs in the game. That’s generally what I think of with a superstar. Are you top 5 at your position?

[SoonerBillsFan]

11 hours ago, Billsfed1 said:

Who’s the guy not named Allen that really takes off?

 

Barger for the Blue Jays is a great example, kids gonna be a star.  

 

When I look at the Bills I’m thinking Jackson, Walker and Strong.  Possibly Hawes.

 

Walker is going to get the opportunity, same for Hawes. I think they both really light it up at home but we’ll see

 

Mad Max

[Evansfan322]

Really hoping Bishop brings it in his second year. Has the makeup to be a great safety and kind of came on at the end of last season. Also we need Coleman to be the receiver he was in the beginning of last year when he was at the top of the league with YAC 

[RyanC883]

WR:  Moore.  Has never had an elite QB. 
 

DB:  Bishop

 

RB:  Davis   
 

LB:  Bernard becoming more of a force.  Milano simply stays g healthy and being himself would be huge. 

[Buffalo716]

5 hours ago, 14774 said:

Reggie Gilliam

Brady is going to start giving him short-yardage carries in the Red Zone to save Allen/Cook/Davis. He'll steam-roll for 20 TDs and people will compare him to "the Bus". 🤣

I love Gilliam but to be fair he's about 17 Ted's Hot dogs and 10 boccis's pizzas short of the buses weight lol

[Rocky Landing]

Travis Clayton. He's going to make the 53 get put in as the sixth lineman in jumbo packages, and declare as an eligible receiver. He'll catch a pass from Allen, and absolutely pancake whomever's in front of him. It will take a minimum of three defenders to take him down. He will change the way opposing teams defend the jumbo package.

 

I mean, it's a cool fantasy, right...?

[strive_for_five_guy]

10 hours ago, SCBills said:

RGIII chimes in.. for whatever that’s worth. 
 

 

Was going to throw Keon out there too.  Yeah, his separation ability has been the big concern.  But, he was coming on about midway through last season before the injury set him back.  Let’s see if he can take some big steps forward this season.

[NewEra]

17 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I think TJ Sanders has that kind of potential. 

Agreed.  Star potential, I’ll go with Sanders.

 

If Benford already isn’t a star, I think he will be recognized if our DL can show improved pass rush. 
 

Spencer Brown as well.  He was pretty dominant last year and did so in impressive fashion, wrecking people.  If we’re talking elite potential the kid has it in spades.  
 

I think Kincaid and Rousseau have that kind of potential as well.   
 

I wouldn’t consider Palmer and Moore as players that can become superstars, both whichever one has the best chemistry with Josh may become a lot more recognizable. 

[machine gun kelly]

20 hours ago, yall said:

I'm thinking Moore had a legit shot to take off.

I’ve been clamoring for months Moore is the dark horse this year.  He ran a 4.35 40 at his combine, been getting the ball thrown to him by the worst QB’s in the NFL with 5e likes of Zack Wilson, a chewed up Deshaun Watson, and so on.  Who’s the guy that released the most out of Cole Beasley, Hollins, Brown, and so on.  Oh yeah, that would be JA17.

 

Moore can run the complete route tree, and will be good for Coleman.  I expect the first four weeks they will have Coleman always on the field, but slowly Moore will get more time, and once Josh sees what he can do, he’ll start to breakout as our go to WR.

 

I can see a growing role for Palmer throughout the season.  As Deniro said to Hendry in Goodfellas….

 

 

[eball]

21 hours ago, balln said:

Hawes? Super star. lol

 

21 hours ago, Billsfed1 said:

Hawes has the size we need.  The new Knox

 

This *could* wind up being one of the sleeper picks of the entire draft.  There’s something about this kid.  He’s smart, tough, and somehow got overlooked.  Just sayin…

 

[folz]

19 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Guys like Palmer and Moore (mentioned by yall) are coming into the best situations they have ever been in. 
 

 

I swear I heard the same stuff regarding Shurfield/Hardy

 

I'm not going to say that either Palmer or Moore will be superstars (we probably spread the ball around too much and run too much for any WR to be a "superstar" this year), but Sherfield and Harty are a pretty poor comparison for Palmer/Moore, imo.

 

I personally didn't expect anything from Sherfield, I did have hope for Harty, but as a speedy slot guy who would help the offense, not as any kind of superstar. 

 

Plus, there is a bit of a difference in their production prior to coming to the Bills.

 

Before coming to Buffalo:

Deonte Harty had played 4 years, had 916 total yards, 4 total TDs, was averaging 20% snap count (and was originally an undrafted free agent)

Trent Sherfield had played 5 years, with 844 total yards, 4 total TDs, was averaging 32% snap count (and was originally an undrafted free agent)

where as:

Elijah Moore has played for 4 years, has 2,233 total yards, 10 total TDs, has averaged 71% snap count (was drafted in the second round, 34th overall)

Josh Palmer has played 4 years, has 2,303 total yards, 10 total TDs, has averaged 65% snap count (was drafted in the third round, 77th overall)

 

I think it is pretty fair for fans to expect more out of Palmer and Moore than we got or even hoped to get from Harty and Sherfield.

 

 

 

As to the OP's original question, what do we mean by superstar? Elite/top 5 at their position? Or just really good player who has a lot of production and really helps the team (but maybe not quite as high as top 3-5 at their position)?

 

If you define Shakir as a slot receiver (not just as a receiver against the entire field), then I would say that Cook and Shakir are at least close to superstars (elite/top 5 at their spots), if not already there yet.

 

Guys with the potential to be a star for the team [not necessarily elite/top 5 at their position, but really good (a lot of production, etc.)---and not saying they will all reach that potential of course]: Bosa, Oliver, Coleman, Bernard, Milano, Groot, Benford, Hairston, Kincaid, Palmer/Moore (again, not sure if the WRs will get enough targets to be considered a star, but I do feel they each have the potential for a very good season...but with Coleman, Shakir, and Samuel, plus the backs, there just may not be enough balls to go around to warrant the label---my guess would be Coleman, Palmer, Moore, as far as the order of who has the best chance to reach star-status...but it's kind of a toss up).

 

[I didn't include the O-line, but both of our tackles are pretty high-level/stars at their positions. And I didn't include rookies Sanders, Walker, or Jackson because they will be rookies in a very heavy rotation, so not sure if they'll get enough opportunities to be considered star players...but who knows, maybe one of DTs overtakes DaQuan in snap counts and balls out.]

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 7/19/2025 at 7:47 AM, EasternOHBillsFan said:

Josh Palmer has a prime opportunity... the other receivers not named Khalil Shakir are really not having much impact and he's a 90+ PFF rated WR at 10+ yards. He takes over and it's a wrap. Josh Allen is definitely NOT Justin Herbert, thank God.

Herbert is overrated, but let’s not pretend he’s garbage. Buffalo would’ve killed for a QB of that caliber during the drought years. Josh Palmer wasn’t in a bad situation (when looking in from the outside at least.) Let’s hope it was a scheme issue. 

[Robert Paulson]

On 7/19/2025 at 8:34 AM, DaVinci said:

I'm goin Ray Davis

 

On 7/19/2025 at 8:34 AM, DaVinci said:

I'm goin Ray Davis

I love the kid but I don't see the top end speed to take it 60 yards like Cook has. He got caught from behind  a lot last year.

[AZSanta]

On 7/19/2025 at 7:13 AM, Billsfed1 said:

Who’s the guy not named Allen that really takes off?

 

Barger for the Blue Jays is a great example, kids gonna be a star.  

 

When I look at the Bills I’m thinking Jackson, Walker and Strong.  Possibly Hawes.

 

Walker is going to get the opportunity, same for Hawes. I think they both really light it up at home but we’ll see

 

Hawes will catch 12 balls if that. Not gonna excel in his rookie season. 

9 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Was going to throw Keon out there too.  Yeah, his separation ability has been the big concern.  But, he was coming on about midway through last season before the injury set him back.  Let’s see if he can take some big steps forward this season.

I agree. Coleman will make a leap forward. Im predicting over a 1000 yds recieving and 8-12 tds

[Kirby Jackson]

Just scrolling through and we have a pretty liberal interpretation of “superstar” when it comes to our own guys. 🤣🤣 My perception is that you need to be top 5 at your position, or top 10 for important positions (QB, LT, WR, pass rusher) to be considered a superstar. Go back and ask yourself, “is ______ one of the best 5 or so players at his position?” If your answer is, “no,” he isn’t, or isn’t about to be, a “superstar.” 

[RoscoeParrish]

8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Just scrolling through and we have a pretty liberal interpretation of “superstar” when it comes to our own guys. 🤣🤣 My perception is that you need to be top 5 at your position, or top 10 for important positions (QB, LT, WR, pass rusher) to be considered a superstar. Go back and ask yourself, “is ______ one of the best 5 or so players at his position?” If your answer is, “no,” he isn’t, or isn’t about to be, a “superstar.” 

Top 5 is based on talent available though.

 

For running back, is everyone in the top 5 a superstar?

 

Barkley and Henry are. CMC when healthy. Then there’s a sizable drop off imo.

 

With WR, I think the superstar list extends past 10.

 

A better way, imo, is if you were an FA today, would you be in “near top of the market” money.

 

Brown would be. Dawkins would not.

[TheWei44]

7 hours ago, eball said:

 

 

This *could* wind up being one of the sleeper picks of the entire draft.  There’s something about this kid.  He’s smart, tough, and somehow got overlooked.  Just sayin…

 

Did you guys hear that he went to Yale?  : )

[Sierra Foothills]

10 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

A better way, imo, is if you were an FA today, would you be in “near top of the market” money.

 

Brown would be. Dawkins would not.

 

I agree with most of your takes but not so much this one.

 

I think Dawkins is underrated in the eyes of many but in a hypothetical open market, he'd get top money.

 

 

[RoscoeParrish]

3 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

I agree with most of your takes but not so much this one.

 

I think Dawkins is underrated in the eyes of many but in a hypothetical open market, he'd get top money.

 

 

Maybe I suppose.

 

I think there is a clearer tier above Dawkins moreso than Brown though.