Landon Jackson put on PUP List

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

If Jackson ends up a hurt guy who misses a lot of camp and is not reliable coupled with whatever is going to happen to Hairston.  This will go down as one of the worst off seasons of beanes time here.

 

if the draft picks are not on the field helping and succeeding this defense is in big trouble.

 

Cheer up! There’s always next year. If things go a certain way, things could be even worse! 

 

😊

[MikePJ76]

44 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Cheer up! There’s always next year. If things go a certain way, things could be even worse! 

 

😊

It can always be worse!

[Bigvinny]

 

[Doc Brown]

On 7/18/2025 at 7:55 AM, MikePJ76 said:

If Jackson ends up a hurt guy who misses a lot of camp and is not reliable coupled with whatever is going to happen to Hairston.  This will go down as one of the worst off seasons of beanes time here.

 

if the draft picks are not on the field helping and succeeding this defense is in big trouble.

I agree but I think it's just as important for last year's picks to step up in Coleman, Bishop, and Carter.  Davis was the only rookie drafted in the first four rounds that had any real impact.

[DapperCam]

38 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I agree but I think it's just as important for last year's picks to step up in Coleman, Bishop, and Carter.  Davis was the only rookie drafted in the first four rounds that had any real impact.

Coleman had some big plays. Just also had a lot of negative plays too.

[Ralonzo]

On 7/16/2025 at 2:26 PM, Direhard Fan said:

Always liked AJE.  Think he gets a bad wrap. 

 

[GunnerBill]

On 7/16/2025 at 8:26 PM, LABILLBACKER said:

He doesn't get a bad wrap. He is what he is. A very mediocre 2nd round pass rusher who in the regular season tops off around 6 sacks. And I'm being generous ignoring his first 2 seasons. AJ has played in 12 playoff games as a Bill and has ZERO sacks. It's highly doubtful he's on the roster this time next year. He just didn't pan out.

 

I have a slightly different take. The first two years was on the team IMO not on AJE. They drafted a player, then completely stripped his game and his body down to try and rebuild him. If Epenesa had performed years 1 and 2 like he did years 3 through 5 I think he'd be considered a pretty solid 2nd round pick as a rotational pass rusher. Not a difference maker, sure, but you don't find a ton of 2nd round pass rushing edge guys that are. 

 

I agree, doubtful he is on the roster next year, but I think people perceptions of him as a second round pick are still largely driven by a very disappointing first two years.

[RoscoeParrish]

10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have a slightly different take. The first two years was on the team IMO not on AJE. They drafted a player, then completely stripped his game and his body down to try and rebuild him. If Epenesa had performed years 1 and 2 like he did years 3 through 5 I think he'd be considered a pretty solid 2nd round pick as a rotational pass rusher. Not a difference maker, sure, but you don't find a ton of 2nd round pass rushing edge guys that are. 

 

I agree, doubtful he is on the roster next year, but I think people perceptions of him as a second round pick are still largely driven by a very disappointing first two years.

Bigger problem with perception of AJE is that we have had a massive need at EDGE rusher his whole career here. 
 

If Rousseau was a double digit sack guy, the fan perception of AJE changes into “solid second round pick” imo. But because we have never really had a very good EDGE rusher during both of their tenures, they both feel underwhelming.

 

It’s why fan expectations for Keon Coleman are so lofty. We need a very good weapon on the boundary ASAP. If he’s just an okay pro, like a Gabe Davis, he will be viewed as a disappointment. Whereas Gabe was seen as a pretty successful pick (I know 4th vs 2nd but I think even if Gabe was a second rounder folks would think he was a good pick.)

 

It’s sorta like if you really need a QB and you take one middle of the second vs 1st overall. The expectation/desire is going to be “eventual franchise QB.”

[Don Otreply]

On 7/18/2025 at 8:07 AM, Augie said:

 

Cheer up! There’s always next year. If things go a certain way, things could be even worse! 

 

😊

So true , Never challenge worse…,  🤣

Edited July 20 by Don Otreply

[EmotionallyUnstable]

22 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

 

I am at least glad they drafted Jackson over the likes of Carson Hayek

[Buffalo ill]

I would like a defensive lineman to actually sack mahomes in the playoffs, when it matters, for once.  I don't care who it is.

[Lost]

23 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said:

I would like a defensive lineman to actually sack mahomes in the playoffs, when it matters, for once.  I don't care who it is.

 

 

[Sierra Foothills]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

I am at least glad they drafted Jackson over the likes of Carson Hayek

 

If they were gonna draft a Hayek, I'd prefer it was Salma Hayek.

 

[Mikie2times]

21 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have a slightly different take. The first two years was on the team IMO not on AJE. They drafted a player, then completely stripped his game and his body down to try and rebuild him. If Epenesa had performed years 1 and 2 like he did years 3 through 5 I think he'd be considered a pretty solid 2nd round pick as a rotational pass rusher. Not a difference maker, sure, but you don't find a ton of 2nd round pass rushing edge guys that are. 

 

I agree, doubtful he is on the roster next year, but I think people perceptions of him as a second round pick are still largely driven by a very disappointing first two years.

I totally agree with this and it's pretty well documented as far as what the Bills envisioned with AJ. It's just sort of a bummer we draft a guy in the 2nd round with a clear need and have a multi year plan for him to basically get on the field. Then the end game is a 5-6 sack a year player. Even if he blows up, we lost his cost control years with the adjustment to his body. Such a limited path for success with this decision. If a pick that early is going to require that big of a transition I just don't see how he can be viewed as a 2nd round pick. That is a 4th/5th round pick type of strategy.   

[Bockeye]

On 7/19/2025 at 8:22 PM, DapperCam said:

Coleman had some big plays. Just also had a lot of negative plays too.

Agreed.  Just like Allen in his first year. 

[MJS]

On 7/18/2025 at 5:55 AM, MikePJ76 said:

If Jackson ends up a hurt guy who misses a lot of camp and is not reliable coupled with whatever is going to happen to Hairston.  This will go down as one of the worst off seasons of beanes time here.

 

if the draft picks are not on the field helping and succeeding this defense is in big trouble.

This is so dramatic and short sighted.

[BarleyNY]

7 hours ago, MJS said:

This is so dramatic and short sighted.

Agree. I was happy to see Beane take some risks on players with upside this draft. Even if we don’t get paid off, it is how “A” level players are found outside the top of the draft. You just have to be willing to live with the misses. 

[Brand J]

10 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I totally agree with this and it's pretty well documented as far as what the Bills envisioned with AJ. It's just sort of a bummer we draft a guy in the 2nd round with a clear need and have a multi year plan for him to basically get on the field. Then the end game is a 5-6 sack a year player. Even if he blows up, we lost his cost control years with the adjustment to his body. Such a limited path for success with this decision. If a pick that early is going to require that big of a transition I just don't see how he can be viewed as a 2nd round pick. That is a 4th/5th round pick type of strategy.   

It’s on the Bills and AJ for the weight loss. The team wanted him in the 265 range, but once he started working out - feverishly - he dropped all the way down to 240 and had none of the power his 280 pound frame carried. AJ said he couldn’t keep the weight on. The Bills were surprised when he showed up that slim, that was not what they envisioned. His playing time took a direct hit in year 2 as well because he just wasn’t effective.

[MikePJ76]

8 hours ago, MJS said:

This is so dramatic and short sighted.

Not dramatic at all.  It’s just my humble opinion.  The defensive free agents are all guys with no singular position, old and declining, high injury guys who miss a lot of time and suspended.

 

it was a really lousy offseason and the draft fixed some of that and created a situation where the free agents will be asked to be role players which is about the max they can be anyway.  Except bosa, he offers upper end talent but he has not displayed it in a long time, he is basically miller of last year if he can stay healthy.

 

having said that, if Jackson ends up an injured guy with a finicky neck issue, Hairston has some sort of hold up because of legal issues outside football and walker’s back is not right and this is a red shirt year for him….well this will have been a disaster of an offseason and the defense and the team will pay the price for it.

 

if Hairston is in the clear and Jackson is healthy and misses no time along with walker then this will be an excellent draft rendering my concern a moot point.  
 

the vibes with all of these guys has been iffy at best sans sanders, Hancock and strong imo.   
 

this team will go as far as the defense allows them and since they spent an offseason putting all their resources into the defense we are all hoping it works out as planned.

[MikePJ76]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

Agree. I was happy to see Beane take some risks on players with upside this draft. Even if we don’t get paid off, it is how “A” level players are found outside the top of the draft. You just have to be willing to live with the misses. 

But you can make the case the risk he took in free agency on defense already has failed him because of the suspensions.  Add in two of the other guys have repeated injury issues in bosa and foster.  
 

obunjobi to me is a really bad signing.  He doesn’t really have a position and the Steelers dumped him because he was bad against the run.  The Bills signing him and saying he is a tech who can play the run seems like blue skying the situation.  I understand he was a signing as insurance in case they didn’t get what they wanted in the draft.  I understand that viewpoint completely but he just seems like a real head scratcher of a signing.  
 

and bosa, he had more Offside penalties than sacks and played with a good pass rusher on the other side of him who demanded attention.  I don’t like anything about the guy personally but everything about him screams declining player with major injury concerns.

 

I am hoping for the best but I am fully expecting some real defensive issues this year.  Doesn’t mean we won’t win because I love the offense, everything about it.  I just think the defense is going to have some issues this year that we have not had in recent years.