BigAl2526 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 There are so many possibilities for most improved it's tough to narrow it down. I think Coleman, Kincaid, Torrence and Bishop are all good possibilities. There are probably more candidates. There may not be quite as many candidates for regression. I think Daquan Jones is as likely to regress as any, though Milano is a possibility too. I just think Daquan started his decline last year and that trend is likely to continue and could even accelerate. I won't be that much of a surprise if he loses his starting job before the end of the year. 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 11:19 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said: Interesting take. I am expecting Kincaid to have a great year. Bishop is an interesting choice. If he can't beat out Hamlin this traininh camp then he's almost in the hustle category already. I almost picked Cook for the same rationale as Allen. No way Cook scores 20+ TDs again. However I could easily see him have more total yards than last season. Moore is a really interesting case. Could be a real nice pickup by Beane. Glad he listened to the radio guys! I know Ethan that was funny as I was listening to the morning WGR show, and never saw Beane have such a meltdown, but he knew we were going to sign Moore the next day. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 14 Posted July 14 For most improved I have to think a healthy Dalton Kincaid is a good bet. I think he has a great season. A leap from him is expected. My most likely to regress is James Cook. I think the TD total last year was an anomaly and expect that to drop by at least half. Gotta remember, a lot of those short yardage TDs came in a year where Allen had a broken hand in game 1, and they weren't running him as much inside the 5 (aside from the push play). I also think Ray Davis is worked in a little more in year two. 1 Quote
ganesh Posted July 14 Posted July 14 What about the coaches...they have kept letting us down every year in the playoffs. All the regular season stats are great...but mean nothing...it is the playoffs... Can Babich improve this defense dramatically with all the new speed and youth ? Can Brady repeat the high flying offense in the playoffs 2 Quote
Steve Billieve Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 8:58 AM, GunnerBill said: If its purely a guy who will play a lot better in 2025 than 2024 then Ed Oliver. Last year by his standards was a disappointing year and I am certain he will be better in 2025. If you are looking more for someone who will "break out" then I agree O'Cyrus is a decent shout. There have been flashes with him but it is the inconsistency, especially against speed rushers attacking his inside shoulder. Regression? I'm sad to say but I think Matt Milano. He might just have missed too much football to ever be his old self. Honourable mention - Josh Allen. Not that Josh won't still be an elite Quarterback, he will. But I'm betting against back to back MVPs and as teams adjust to the Bills offense under Brady I do wonder whether the talent arpund Josh will be enough to win through if some of the schematic things we did to win last year are negated. Damn, why you gotta be like that ?? I like many respect your opinion 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 11:48 AM, billsbackto81 said: I think Coleman will improve, but not sure if his actual numbers will reflect it due to all the new targets and their distribution. Surprisingly, I also think Shakir will improve with another year of trust and chemistry with Josh. I expect him to just break 1k this season. Regression is a tough one. Many say Daquan, but to me in order to regress you have to be a major starter and I feel his snap count will be seriously reduced if not getting cut outright. Gotta think it'll be Milano. I think he'll be critical in a playoff push if healthy, but being older and injury prone could hurt. I also think this will also be a year Williams takes another step. Dark horse regression candidate? I'm going with Bernard. Daquan is an interesting choice because I didn’t think he played great last season. It sounded like he was competent but a far cry from the tear he went on to start 2023. With the new additions on the DL, we probably see DaQuan take less snaps - potentially giving way to Sanders or Carter, which could actually help his effectiveness. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 14 Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Steve Billieve said: Damn, why you gotta be like that ?? I like many respect your opinion Ha. I just don't think expecting / hoping Josh to be the MVP again is realistic. I suppose it is possible for him to play as well and just not get the award.... but the likelihood is Josh is elite but not necessarily the best QB in football in 2025. 1 Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 9:56 AM, JP51 said: Lots of players to fit in here for improved Oliver, Johnson, Coleman, Samuel, even Milano to a point if he comes back healthy. But I am gonna pick Kincaid Regress DaQuon who I think will lose his starting spot Hard to regress from last year. Seemed like we never heard his number called. 1 Quote
stlbills13 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Improved: Offense: Spencer Brown becomes a top 2 RT in the game. Defense: Cole Bishop becomes the next long-term safety in McD's system Regressed: Offense: James Cook statistically regresses (less TD's) but the player who actually regresses is Dion Dawkins (solid year just not what we've seen lately) Defense: Taron Johnson showed regression last year and it amplifies this year. 1 1 Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Improved: Coleman, Kincaid and Milano in maybe in his last great LB year. Regressed: You guys are gutless...it is Allen. He has been lights out awesome for so long like an inhabitant of Mount Olympus. Normally I would say the meta-human keeps it going, but...he is married now. As one of the great boxing trainers of all time, Mickey, said, "Women. Weaken. Knees." If he is able to keep us and Mrs. Allen happy in 2025 his image should be carved into Football Mount Rushmore in time for an unveiling next March. Go Bills! 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted July 14 Posted July 14 I think the nuanced question is which players could the Bills MOST like/need to see improve? For me, it’d be first, Cole Bishop on defense and second, Coleman on offense. As to regression; which players could the Bills LEAST like see regress. For me, it’s anyone on the OLine. Quote
Paup 1995MVP Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 9:25 AM, Fan in Chicago said: Improved: In my mind, it is a toss up between Kincaid and Coleman Regress: I agree with your choice of Taron Taron is too small to play such a physical brand of football. He is always beating the hell out of himself. If he can make it to week 5 without being concussed or suffering some type of soft tissue injury, I will be impressed. Can Hancock play slot corner? And what about Ingram? I know people talk about Cam Lewis. And he plays all out. But the guy is just not overly athletic. Quote
JP51 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 1 hour ago, BuffaloMatt said: Hard to regress from last year. Seemed like we never heard his number called. Well the regression was he either sits or gets the boot... and I agree color me way unimpressed with Oliver and Jones last year especially Jones... Father time is undefeated.... Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted July 14 Posted July 14 6 minutes ago, JP51 said: Well the regression was he either sits or gets the boot... and I agree color me way unimpressed with Oliver and Jones last year especially Jones... Father time is undefeated.... Ha! Time stands still for no one! I also agree with you about Oliver. Seems he only plays to expectations on Thanksgiving or in Detroit. 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 11:59 AM, BillsFan130 said: I would hate to see what a regression from Cole Bishop looks like lol Dropping the clipboard? 1 Quote
JP51 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 46 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: Ha! Time stands still for no one! I also agree with you about Oliver. Seems he only plays to expectations on Thanksgiving or in Detroit. I am still trying to figure him out... I am hoping he was a casualty of a major fall off in productions from Jones or an injury... I think we want him to be this game wrecker and he is gonna be more steady Eddie (pun intented) with a few flash plays here and there... I dont think you are gonna get him to an all pro level.... lets see... Quote
billsbackto81 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 4 hours ago, JohnNord said: Daquan is an interesting choice because I didn’t think he played great last season. It sounded like he was competent but a far cry from the tear he went on to start 2023. With the new additions on the DL, we probably see DaQuan take less snaps - potentially giving way to Sanders or Carter, which could actually help his effectiveness. Nothing makes a vet pick up his game like a youngling nipping at his heels.👍 I keep watching TJ Sanders' college highlights and really like what I'm seeing. 🤤 Dline is going to super deep this year to the point I feel there won't be much of a drop off when rotation starts. 1 Quote
eball Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 10:31 AM, MDH said: As for regression I think the obvious answer is Daquan. He regressed last year and is at an age where he could fall off the cliff. Still disappointed the Bills didn’t bring in a succession plan for him. They drafted two interior D-linemen this year, and Carter last year. That's not a plan? 2 Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted July 14 Posted July 14 1 hour ago, JP51 said: I am still trying to figure him out... I am hoping he was a casualty of a major fall off in productions from Jones or an injury... I think we want him to be this game wrecker and he is gonna be more steady Eddie (pun intented) with a few flash plays here and there... I dont think you are gonna get him to an all pro level.... lets see... I always thought he was undersized. They hoped he'd be like Aaron Donald as they are so similar in size and weight (6'1" 285) but there is only one Aaron Donald. Ed doesn't seem to get the same interior pressure as the bigger O-lineman treat him like their little brother. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted July 14 Posted July 14 I figured that this thread would be littered with Keon Coleman for most improved. Personally, I feel that’s some wishful thinking. The player he was last year looked so much like the player he was in college. I just don’t think he’s very good. IMO, he’s just a guy. Hopefully he takes a step forward but that video last week of him running routes was 😬. For me, most improved needs to be Cole Bishop. I don’t think he was very good last year but he has tools. He needs to take a step. The Bills bet on that. If he becomes that player, he and Rapp are a pretty good duo. I’d say that the most likely to improve is Ed Oliver. I think he has a Pro Bowl year this year. I love he and Sanders rushing on passing downs together. My sleeper is Javon Solomon. He is a better football player than he is a physical freak. I think he’s a 6+ sack guy. I’d lump Elijah Moore in here. The Bills will maximize his ability to run routes and he will prove to be a very valuable part of that offense. Most likely to regress for me is Connor McGovern. I think he’s really good. He was one of the best centers in football while playing there for the first time in years. I still think he will be good but maybe closer to 10 than top 5. The OL in general was outstanding last year. It feels like that has to regress a little. I hope I’m wrong. Milano and Taron feel too obvious to me. Both are veterans with a decent amount of mileage. A few years ago we all knew Hyde and Poyer would start to regress even if it was only a little. Those 2 guys fit that. 1 Quote
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