Augie Posted Monday at 06:17 PM Posted Monday at 06:17 PM 33 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: I totally agree. This is why Beane and McDermott suck IMO. Yes, they suck so badly we are tied with the Ravens as SB favorites for the upcoming season (FanDuel), just ahead of the Eagles then the Chiefs. You can be unhappy with various things, but I think when you say they suck, you lose credibility. Just because it’s not what you want does not mean anything sucks. We are fortunate to be so close as a team, but it seems to anger some of the natives that we haven’t gotten over the hump….yet. We have some weak spots, but we do not suck. 1 1 Quote
bigK14094 Posted Monday at 06:41 PM Posted Monday at 06:41 PM Dec 28 will tell the tale. Gonna be a tough game for both teams that day. Quote
Jauronimo Posted Monday at 06:49 PM Posted Monday at 06:49 PM 4 hours ago, Logic said: It comes down to this: Do you believe that the Bills' problem are deep and systemic, and no amount of personnel turnover will fix them? - or - Do you believe that the Bills' formula is good enough to get them to the doorstep of the Super Bowl every year, and they keep being just a play or two away from getting there? If you believe the former, then you probably agree with this article. If you believe the latter, then you probably don't agree with the article. If you believe the former, you likely want some combination of Beane and McDermott gone, and you want a shiny new head coach and/or GM. If you believe the latter, you just keep trying to add talent and "keep trying to kick the door down", as one NFL executive put it to Beane last year. Which side are you on? That's the big question. I have concerns that the talent needs for McD's scheme to stop the league's top offenses when it matters are unrealistic. We've tried a lot of different combos of players and DCs but the song remains the same. No answers in January and they give up points and yards at a historic rate. 1 2 1 1 Quote
Augie Posted Monday at 07:01 PM Posted Monday at 07:01 PM 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: I have concerns that the talent needs for McD's scheme to stop the league's top offenses when it matters are unrealistic. We've tried a lot of different combos of players and DCs but the song remains the same. No answers in January and they give up points and yards at a historic rate. I’m not sure if the problem is the talent of players, or the quality of depth. When we get to the playoffs it seems our defense is decimated by injuries. Part of that may come from being fast but “smallish”, but we seem to run out of “guys”. We should not be interrupting AJ Klein’s vacations to help us in the playoffs. Maybe going so deep on defense in this year’s draft helps that, because I’m as sick of it as anyone. 1 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted Monday at 07:21 PM Posted Monday at 07:21 PM 16 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m not sure if the problem is the talent of players, or the quality of depth. When we get to the playoffs it seems our defense is decimated by injuries. Part of that may come from being fast but “smallish”, but we seem to run out of “guys”. We should not be interrupting AJ Klein’s vacations to help us in the playoffs. Maybe going so deep on defense in this year’s draft helps that, because I’m as sick of it as anyone. We can't do this forever can we? Even if it has been true some years. It largely wasn't last year, but some people expect 100% health at this point. Would it surprise you this year if Benford gets hurt? How about Bernard? Who is backing Bernard up (hint, get Klein's number ready). If the defense is only as strong as those players we have a really big problem with our defensive philosophy. 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted Monday at 07:35 PM Posted Monday at 07:35 PM 53 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Dec 28 will tell the tale. Gonna be a tough game for both teams that day. Hopefully we will have the division and 2 seed locked up by then Quote
GoBills808 Posted Monday at 07:40 PM Posted Monday at 07:40 PM 7 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Anyone who states "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" instantly loses any credibility. That is not the definition of insanity, it is a quote that gets erroneously credited to Einstein. Do people that say this honestly believe that is the definition of insanity?! * Sorry to go off topic, but that is huge pet peeve of mine. ** &%@? the eagles and their uninformed fans! i think the real definition of insanity is arguing about the real definition of insanity 2 Quote
FireChans Posted Monday at 07:43 PM Posted Monday at 07:43 PM (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: We can't do this forever can we? Even if it has been true some years. It largely wasn't last year, but some people expect 100% health at this point. Would it surprise you this year if Benford gets hurt? How about Bernard? Who is backing Bernard up (hint, get Klein's number ready). If the defense is only as strong as those players we have a really big problem with our defensive philosophy. Sure we can. Just believe the next defensive draft class is gonna make the difference. Despite the last defensive draft class barely being allowed to play last year. Just give them another mulligan! Bills fans have no choice but to enjoy the wacky ride. Other teams fans don’t. Edited Monday at 07:44 PM by FireChans Quote
Rockinon Posted Monday at 07:58 PM Posted Monday at 07:58 PM I think the defense is going to be much improved this year. That is going to give Josh and company more opportunities. All the defense has to do is get the ball back one more time and that can change the outcome of a game. Quote
blitzboy54 Posted Monday at 08:02 PM Posted Monday at 08:02 PM 21 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: The Bills thru the eyes of an Eagles fan site SB Nation is the parent organization of Buffalo Rumblings, a web site cited from time to time here at TBD. They have fan run sites for all NFL teams. This is an article looking at the Bills, one of the Eagles' opponents in the 2025 season. I thought it was interesting. Essentially, they believe that Buffalo did precious little to change the team after yet again failing to surpass the Chiefs in the playoffs. The is a reference to the old adage about the definition of insanity "doing the same thing over and expecting different results. No mentioned by name, the article says Buffalo brought in old injured veterans (Tre White, and Joe Bosa) and "warm bodies" (Josh Palmer and Elijah Moore?) at WR. No mention is made of Buffalo's focus on defense in the draft. So, are the authors right - Buffalo is destined for another playoff run that will again fall short, or are they underestimating the potential effect that newcomers could have on the team? My own perspective is that Buffalo's near misses in its attempts to reach the Super Bowl are not a reason to go into a full scale rebuild. The relatively minor retooling that the Bills have done is due in part to salary cap constraints and an effort to preserve the team's long term outlook, rather that "blowing the wad" on a one-time effort to get over the hump. I think there is still reason to believe that small changes could be enough to give Buffalo the improvements they need to not only get to the Super Bowl, but to win it. They were not that far off. I think for those of us on the side of this article is, this is McD's 3rd defense. Most of us on this side simply want an elite pass catcher. Even last year in a historically deep WR draft they only picked one and traded with KC to give them their guy. I hope it works but this does have a run it back and hope Josh can pull an inside straight again. 2 1 Quote
sunshynman Posted Monday at 08:04 PM Posted Monday at 08:04 PM 7 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Anyone who states "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" instantly loses any credibility. That is not the definition of insanity, it is a quote that gets erroneously credited to Einstein. Do people that say this honestly believe that is the definition of insanity?! * Sorry to go off topic, but that is huge pet peeve of mine. ** &%@? the eagles and their uninformed fans! You put the ass in assumption Quote
GoBills808 Posted Monday at 08:08 PM Posted Monday at 08:08 PM 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: I have concerns that the talent needs for McD's scheme to stop the league's top offenses when it matters are unrealistic. We've tried a lot of different combos of players and DCs but the song remains the same. No answers in January and they give up points and yards at a historic rate. heck forget stopping id settle for marginally disrupt Quote
Gregg Posted Monday at 08:12 PM Posted Monday at 08:12 PM I will give the 5% a pass because nothing is guaranteed and slip to 2nd place is possible. But 3rd or 4th place come on. Unless the Bills are hit with major injuries, I don't see any way possible 3rd or 4th happens. The 3% must be some bitter, angry Dolphins, Jets, Pats fans. 2 Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted Monday at 08:29 PM Posted Monday at 08:29 PM 1 hour ago, Mikie2times said: We can't do this forever can we? Even if it has been true some years. It largely wasn't last year, but some people expect 100% health at this point. Would it surprise you this year if Benford gets hurt? How about Bernard? Who is backing Bernard up (hint, get Klein's number ready). If the defense is only as strong as those players we have a really big problem with our defensive philosophy. That’s why youth matters along with scheme, etc. The Eagles were exceptionally lucky with injuries last year, and that’s often a common trait with SB participants. 1 1 Quote
BuffaloMatt Posted Monday at 09:34 PM Posted Monday at 09:34 PM Letter to the Ungrateful Faithful: Try and enjoy the last 7-8 years. Sniping and whining about the coaches, decision making and draft classes is mind boggling near sighted. It takes a perfect blend of talent, decision making and luck to win a superbowl. The Bills are relevant and really good. Enjoy that, and if things fall in the right places we may actually get to watch them raise the Lombardi. Grateful Faithful 1 1 1 Quote
Ralonzo Posted Monday at 10:33 PM Posted Monday at 10:33 PM 3 hours ago, Mikie2times said: How about Bernard? Who is backing Bernard up (hint, get Klein's number ready). I'd bet on Andreessen surprising to the upside. He made plays all over preseason basically not knowing exacly what to do in this D. From early season team activities it sounds like he not only knows what he's supposed to do, but everyone else on the field as well. Bail Inspector is hopefully a cut, more likely an injury settlement. Quote
dayman Posted Tuesday at 12:26 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:26 AM On 7/6/2025 at 7:38 PM, MJS said: The Bills are exactly where they have been, and that is one of the best teams in the NFL. A team just one or two plays away from the superbowl. If some random Eagles supporters don't think the Bills have changed much, whatever. The Bills are still an extremely tough team to beat, just like they have been the last few years. The Bills had a much better offensive line and run game than the Chiefs last year. It would not have been the same game if it was the Bills in the Superbowl. Not saying the Bills would have won, but the offensive line would not have been ragdolled and Josh Allen would have made some plays. It would have been a long day trying to stop Barkley, though. I don’t think many Bills fans felt we would have won that game. We can’t stop a nose bleed. It’s fair to call a deep playoff run and loss or ceiling until we finally win it, which is still proving to be our white whale. 3 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said: That’s why youth matters along with scheme, etc. The Eagles were exceptionally lucky with injuries last year, and that’s often a common trait with SB participants. Common trait among the youth Quote
Maine-iac Posted Tuesday at 12:52 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:52 AM 21 hours ago, Mikie2times said: The Eagles were 3rd in EPA defense Overall, 2nd vs the Rush last year. Baltimore was one sport worse vs the the run and 11th overall. Eagles dropped 37 on us the year prior with a less productive offense and a better Bills defense. They had the 4th worst defense in football that year. We have shown no history of playing up in weight class in the postseason. I don't think it would be close. The Broncos were number 1 in EPA and we hung 30 on them and Cook ran all over them. Remove the one awful Bengals game and the offense is averaging 26 points in our playoff losses and we're losing by less than a TD even though the defense is giving up over 30 in those games. It's your opinion and your entitled to it but I'll stand by my opinion that the offense is capable of keeping us in any game. Maybe I'm getting bad info but I thought the Ravens were 8th overall and 2 spots better than the Eagles vs the run. 1 Quote
PonyBoy Posted Tuesday at 12:56 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:56 AM 11 hours ago, pennstate10 said: Actually, Bills didn’t draft a single player to address the Eagles front 4. I agree that the Eagles front 4 won the game for them. But two of their major contributors are gone. I meant to be like the Eagles front four to get after the QB without blitzing. Quote
GoBills808 Posted Tuesday at 01:10 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:10 AM 10 minutes ago, PonyBoy said: I meant to be like the Eagles front four to get after the QB without blitzing. iirc the Eagles were kind of middle of the pack in 2024 wrt sacks They just kind of came alive during the playoffs and esp the Super Bowl. I mean Josh Sweat looked like Lawrence Taylor out there and he's just ok 2 Quote
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