BigAl2526 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago The explanation I've seen is this: A few picks before Buffalo, New Orleans picked a QB, Tyler Shough. Shough was not a highly regarded QB and he is 26 years old, but the Saints liked him. Moreover, the Saints may be in a position where they have to start him. The only other QB on the roster with any name recognition at all is Spencer Rattler. Well, Shough decided that while he can't ask for the big bucks of a high first round pick, since he is the de facto starter on a bad New Orleans team, he could hold out for a fully guaranteed contract. Agents for other second round picks got wind of this (agents talk to each other all the time) and decided to wait things out because if Shough can wrangle a fully guaranteed deal, perhaps they can do the same for their clients, or at least get significant chunks of guaranteed money. Hence, it's not Sanders being difficult, it's just agents doing what they're supposed to do, trying to get their clients the best deals they can. Anyone hear anything different or have another take on it? 3 Quote
ddaryl Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) I think the majoirty of the 2nd round is not signed and its because of guarenteed money amounts.. When the top few picks of Rd 2 are signed I think the dominoes will fall quickly. https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/6/23/24454327/green-bay-packers-news-unsigned-2025-rookies-nfl-draft-second-rounders Edited 3 hours ago by ddaryl 3 Quote
Doc Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago It’s because of the Texans, who actually gave their 2nd rounder a fully guaranteed contract. 1 3 1 Quote
Pete Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Houston ***** over the whole league, and gave guaranteed money. Now every second rounder wants guaranteed money. Once one signs, they all will (except the Bengals lol) 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago According to the CBA is that even legal Can a rookie second round pick get a fully guaranteed contract? Quote
FLFan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Lots of detail in this article for those interested in learning more. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-what-is-holding-up-nfl-draft-second-rounders-from-signing-rookie-deals/ 1 Quote
H2o Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago He's slotted at approximately $10.63M. That's really not that steep of a rate at this point over 4 years, even if the entire contract is guaranteed. 1 Quote
JP51 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Ralph is cheap! Keon is slow and Kincaid is skinny! The unholy 3 lol 😆 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 28 minutes ago, ddaryl said: I think the majoirty of the 2nd round is not signed and its because of guarenteed money amounts.. When the top few picks of Rd 2 are signed I think the dominoes will all quickly. https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/6/23/24454327/green-bay-packers-news-unsigned-2025-rookies-nfl-draft-second-rounders Thirty of the thirty-six unsigned picks are in the second round according to the article. Simple math says only 2 are signed. I would guess most of the remaining six unsigned picks are first rounders. 1 Quote
Doc Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: Thirty of the thirty-six unsigned picks are in the second round according to the article. Simple math says only 2 are signed. I would guess most of the remaining six unsigned picks are first rounders. I read only 2 first rounders are still unsigned. Quote
Paup 1995MVP Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said: The explanation I've seen is this: A few picks before Buffalo, New Orleans picked a QB, Tyler Shough. Shough was not a highly regarded QB and he is 26 years old, but the Saints liked him. Moreover, the Saints may be in a position where they have to start him. The only other QB on the roster with any name recognition at all is Spencer Rattler. Well, Shough decided that while he can't ask for the big bucks of a high first round pick, since he is the de facto starter on a bad New Orleans team, he could hold out for a fully guaranteed contract. Agents for other second round picks got wind of this (agents talk to each other all the time) and decided to wait things out because if Shough can wrangle a fully guaranteed deal, perhaps they can do the same for their clients, or at least get significant chunks of guaranteed money. Hence, it's not Sanders being difficult, it's just agents doing what they're supposed to do, trying to get their clients the best deals they can. Anyone hear anything different or have another take on it? Yea I wonder how that is going to sit with the Saints locker room when an over drafted QB is holding out for a fully guaranteed contract? How about you win the job from Rattler and Haener first, and then do some good things for the next 3 years, and then you can make all the money your heart desires like a guy named Brook Purdy? What about Cinci's 1st round pick Shamar 1 and a 1/2 sacks his last year at Texas A & M Stewart? Quote
WotAGuy Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Sounds like the owners aren’t the only ones colluding. 1 Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Doc said: I read only 2 first rounders are still unsigned. I thought it was just the Bengals Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago The top 2 picks in the round got fully guaranteed contracts. So the rest are holding out. That's pretty much it. 1 Quote
Doc Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I thought it was just the Bengals So did I and then I read a link above that says that Denver also has an unsigned first rounder. 2 Quote
ganesh Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said: Thirty of the thirty-six unsigned picks are in the second round according to the article. Simple math says only 2 are signed. I would guess most of the remaining six unsigned picks are first rounders. the two are the 1st two picks in the 2nd round and they got their contract fully guaranteed....Now every 2nd round pick wants his contract to be guaranteed...The league is waiting to see who will blink first...the teams or the players. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: The top 2 picks in the round got fully guaranteed contracts. So the rest are holding out. That's pretty much it. Leave to Houston to screw everything up. I would have thought this would be an idiot move the Browns would have made. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 42 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Leave to Houston to screw everything up. I would have thought this would be an idiot move the Browns would have made. The Browns 2nd round pick (#33) signed a fully guaranteed contract too. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/97832/carson-schwesinger Quote
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