Fred Warner resets the LB Market. $63 million, 3 year contract extension

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Do we have to do this every time? 
 

“Beane missed out on this guy, picked the wrong LB!” So did 32 other teams, included SF!!! Guy was a 3rd round pick. 
 

It’s exhausting

I think it was 31 teams as the Rams were in efff them picks mode with the Goff trade up the year before.  It can get exhausting though but when you haven't drafted an elite, proven player besides Allen fans lose patience.  Benford and Groot could become elite soon and some would argue that Benford already is.

5 hours ago, Mat68 said:

A guy signing at the time the largest contract for his position is not counted as a whiff or bust.  The Warner deal does make Benards deal look good.  Benard makes similar to Warner when he is playing his best.  

Bears kind of bet on traits too with that signing as him being only 24 who's only getting better was the pitch that Poles gave Bears fans.  It's not hindsight when pretty much everyone on here agreed it was a massive overpay even though many were worried that he couldn't effectively be replaced.  He definitely wasn't a whiff or a bust but if you trade up for a player in the first round that's not a primary position you expect him to be elite.  McBeane were hoping for their Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly in that round.  Luckily, the one they hit on (and then some) was the former or they might not have jobs right now.  

 

I disagree with Bernard at his best isn't close to Wagner who has been the golden standard imo for ILB's with his play over the last five seasons.  I think both contracts were appropriate.

Edited 9 hours ago by Doc Brown

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

I think it was 31 teams as the Rams were in efff them picks mode with the Goff trade up the year before.  It can get exhausting though but when you haven't drafted an elite, proven player besides Allen fans lose patience.  Benford and Groot could become elite soon and some would argue that Benford already is.

 

 

 

Taron Johnson is elite, and terrific. So yes he has drafted an elite proven player besides Allen.

 

Benford could indeed become elite soon. Same with Spencer Brown, really. And yeah, Benford is maybe arguable right now as well. 

 

With where they pick, that's a damn good record. Not the best in the league or anything, but damn good. 

 

If fans are losing patience, that's more on them.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

11 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Do we have to do this every time? 
 

“Beane missed out on this guy, picked the wrong LB!” So did 32 other teams, included SF!!! Guy was a 3rd round pick. 
 

It’s exhausting

Yeah except in this case it is fair criticism.  When you give up multiple picks to move up and draft a guy that is not nearly as good as two other players in the same draft class it is fair criticism. 

That said I thought Edmunds was going to be a superstar at the time.  Thought he was the next Brian Urlacher. Didn't like giving up multiple picks but thought the player was going to be great. 

BTW just cross out Edmunds and Warner and add Kincaid and LaPorta and its the same story. 

[Mr. WEO]

Cook's quote now just went to 25 million per....damn!

[balln]

12 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Warner has HoF instincts. Warner’s brain in Edmund’s body may have been the greatest ILB in NFL history. 

I don’t know about that. Edmund’s is too tall and thin base. He gets run over and run on too much for my liking. But as a roaming space occupying pass defender he was OK/good. He really didn’t show up against good teams - Mahommes and Kelce abused him 

[Ralonzo]

2 hours ago, balln said:

I don’t know about that. Edmund’s is too tall and thin base. He gets run over and run on too much for my liking. But as a roaming space occupying pass defender he was OK/good. He really didn’t show up against good teams - Mahommes and Kelce abused him 

 

Yeah Mahomes moved him around like you move a cat around with a laser pointer, and Kelce was usually wfo in the voided area.

[DrDawkinstein]

14 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Do we have to do this every time? 
 

“Beane missed out on this guy, picked the wrong LB!” So did 32 other teams, included SF!!! Guy was a 3rd round pick. 
 

It’s exhausting

 

Dont get me wrong, I love Beane. I have a "Big Baller Beane" shirt that is my lucky Tshirt and I wear it all the time.

 

It's just offseason discussion. I was more daydreaming about what it could have looked like with Warner and Milano on the field. Not trying to bash the Edmunds pick.

 

I wonder if that pick puts us over the top against KC in any of the playoff games? The challenges Beane would have had to keep everyone and get everyone paid? Who else would we have let walk in order to divert that money to Warner? Maybe Ed?

[Rigotz]

18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Yep traded up for Allen and then Edmunds was the first of Beane's long string of, so far, failed Day 1 and 2 trade-ups.   

 

It is so ridiculous that after one of the best rookie seasons at Tight End ever, people are completely out on Dalton Kincaid in year 2.

 

Saying Edmund is a failed Day 1 pick is equally ridiculous. He signed a massive contract in the offseason and has experienced plenty of success in the NFL. He's a failure by Beane because we didn't sign him to that overpaid contract? No.

 

Here are some noteworthy Day 2 picks the last 4 years: O'Cyrus Torrence, Dorian Williams, James Cook, Terrel Bernard, Spencer Brown.

 

I don't know where this mentality started of criticizing Beane at every juncture, but he's a good GM. Be glad he's with the organization.