Purdy and 49’ers extension. 5 years 265 million

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, H2o said:

The Lance deal was an organizational flop from top to bottom. He had barely thrown 300 passes in 3 years at a Division I AA school. One year was good, albeit against weak competition. A blind man could have seen that bust of a QB walking into a room. 

 

With Purdy, you saw exactly who he is this past year. A middle of the road QB who isn't a guy that will carry the franchise. He's not terrible. He's better than at least half of the starters in the NFL. $53M a year though?  Absolutely not.

Like I said.  I wouldn't give him that much but the Lance example is why you at least need an above average QB even in Shanahan's offense surrounded by all pros.  Baker's $33m (maybe $40 to 45m with inflation) per year contract makes a lot more sense.

Edited 2 hours ago by Doc Brown

[Kirby Jackson]

49 minutes ago, Process said:

What an absurd take. Purdy is not great but he is definitely getting you several more wins than Justin Fields. 

With the exact same roster, you believe that Purdy is “several wins better?” Okay. I’m not even saying that Fields is good. I’m basically saying, anyone that would rather have Purdy at $53M AAV than Fields (or whatever bridge QB) at $20M AAV is an idiot.
 

Purdy is fine. That franchise just gutted their roster to keep an average QB. The biggest mistake an NFL front office can make is paying an average QB, top QB money. The numbers are so big now, it just can’t work. You’re 100x better with a bridge guy or starting over with a young QB. The day that you pay Tua or Purdy or Carr is the day that you’re officially no better than a WC contender for the life of their contract.

49 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I don't think they make the Super Bowl with Fields as the starting QB a year and a half ago.  Purdy is a faster processor who can go through his reads quicker avoiding negative plays.  Would I have paid him that much?  No.  A Baker Mayfield contract would've been more appropriate.  You could say the same thing about Love, Lawrence, Goff, and Tua.  He's better than Fields though.

That was Purdy on a rookie deal. It was the best contract in football. If you can get middle of the road QB play, from a guy picked last, and on a rookie deal, you won the lottery. Now that you’re paying him Josh Allen money, you’re done. That’s the point. 
 

I do agree on the Baker deal. I also agree on Lawrence, Goff, Tua, Kyler and a whole bunch of others. I’m not yet sure on Love. 

21 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Fields is the wrong example.

 

Fields is actually awful. If you wanted to say, “I’d rather pay Geno $37M than Purdy $53M,” that’s fine and makes sense.

 

Fields can barely complete a pass. He was worth Mac Jones level compensation last year. He’s horrendous.

Fields wasn’t horrible last year. He isn’t a traditional QB. They won with him and he was effective. I’m not saying that he’s great or even good. I’m saying that he’s in the tier with those overpaid middle guys (or at worst a tick below). Your record isn’t much worse with him than Purdy. Maybe a game or 2. Your ceiling is the exact same.

[Doc Brown]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That was Purdy on a rookie deal. It was the best contract in football. If you can get middle of the road QB play, from a guy picked last, and on a rookie deal, you won the lottery. Now that you’re paying him Josh Allen money, you’re done. That’s the point. 
 

I do agree on the Baker deal. I also agree on Lawrence, Goff, Tua, Kyler and a whole bunch of others. I’m not yet sure on Love. 

FWIW with Purdy.  He's an above average starting QB and this contract won't look as bad a couple of years from now imo.

 

 

[Big Blitz]

5 hours ago, SCBills said:

Tua vibes

 

I've been calling him West Coast Tua for 2 years now lol. 

[L Ron Burgundy]

This is insane to me.  Lynch is gonna get fired over this.  He's at BEST like 10th-12th best qb in the league.  Sf might make the playoffs this year purely based on having an easy schedule but man they shot themselves in the foot.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

I would not make that deal in 1 million years.

[stuvian]

any QB in Niners gear who has won a playoff game is considered Joe Montana Lite

[L Ron Burgundy]

12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

FWIW with Purdy.  He's an above average starting QB and this contract won't look as bad a couple of years from now imo.

 

 

It's not just the yearly cap, it's the 5 year term.  Locking in to a guy whose at best above average is crazy to me.  I get a 2 year deal for high money but more is insane to me.  I am blown away that they did this.

[Einstein]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Not while Pegula is here. They interviewed him in 2015 and flat out HATED him.

 

Didn’t know this. Do you remember why?

[RoscoeParrish]

33 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Fields wasn’t horrible last year. He isn’t a traditional QB. They won with him and he was effective. I’m not saying that he’s great or even good. I’m saying that he’s in the tier with those overpaid middle guys (or at worst a tick below). Your record isn’t much worse with him than Purdy. Maybe a game or 2. Your ceiling is the exact same.

He’s actually horrible. His career average is 150 passing yards per game. He’s not on Purdy or Geno or Cousins or Darnold’s level, respectfully. He can’t run an offense or read a defense or play QB at the NFL level.

 

Like I said, your take makes sense if you pick “league average guy making league average money.” Your take does not make sense for a dude who can’t play the position. You may as well say “you are better off paying Peterman $20M.” It’s just wrong.

[Doc Brown]

17 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

It's not just the yearly cap, it's the 5 year term.  Locking in to a guy whose at best above average is crazy to me.  I get a 2 year deal for high money but more is insane to me.  I am blown away that they did this.

I get it but I’ve seen enough off script plays from him where I think he’s a little bit more than just a good system quarterback.  I’d take him above Tua, Love, or Lawrence if forced to pick. He has a high floor and can win with him at that salary if you consistently nail the draft.

[BigDingus]

Out of all the 2nd tier QBs that got big contracts tbf last few years, Purdy is the one that deserves it most. 

 

Tua, Dak, Lawrence, Murray, Cousins, Love, Goff, etc. all haven't been as consistent as Purdy (and that's not counting the huge flops like Daniel Jones & Deshaun Watson). And that's while getting paid next to nothing as far as NFL players go. 

 

I don't think he's great or anything, but given that he was the last pick of the 7th round, he was always going to have an uphill battle getting compensated like the higher round guys, despite being more successful.

 

Trevor Lawrence just needed one decent stretch of games to end a season + a playoff win. He's a 1st round pick & "generational" talent, so everybody was ready to pay him based on potential. But Mr. Irrelevant? He's going to have to do a lot more to sell people on paying him big money. 

 

Playing as well as he has, only to be paid less than Trey Lance, Tommy Devito, Joe Milton & Quinn Ewers (who?)... Glad to see him getting paid better. 

[Sierra Foothills]

8 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

Out of all the 2nd tier QBs that got big contracts tbf last few years, Purdy is the one that deserves it most. 

 

Tua, Dak, Lawrence, Murray, Cousins, Love, Goff, etc. all haven't been as consistent as Purdy (and that's not counting the huge flops like Daniel Jones & Deshaun Watson). And that's while getting paid next to nothing as far as NFL players go. 

 

I don't think he's great or anything, but given that he was the last pick of the 7th round, he was always going to have an uphill battle getting compensated like the higher round guys, despite being more successful.

 

Trevor Lawrence just needed one decent stretch of games to end a season + a playoff win. He's a 1st round pick & "generational" talent, so everybody was ready to pay him based on potential. But Mr. Irrelevant? He's going to have to do a lot more to sell people on paying him big money. 

 

Playing as well as he has, only to be paid less than Trey Lance, Tommy Devito, Joe Milton & Quinn Ewers (who?)... Glad to see him getting paid better. 

 

Put differently, he's the least undeserving.

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

23 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I get it but I’ve seen enough off script plays from him where I think he’s a little bit more than just a good system quarterback.  I’d take him above Tua, Love, or Lawrence if forced to pick. He has a high floor and can win with him at that salary if you consistently nail the draft.

I dont see it but its possible.  I figured they'd do a mini rebuild after losing so many guys this year but it doesn't seem like that's their plan.

[GunnerBill]

44 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Didn’t know this. Do you remember why?

 

Came off arrogant and aloof and as though he was doing them a favour just being there. Now the Bills wasn't the most attractive destination at the time, that's fair. But he also wasn't the hottest coordinator on the block after leaving Cleveland after one season. Interview was described as very short and with mutual loathing.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

I've been calling him West Coast Tua for 2 years now lol. 

Tua's never won a playoff game.  Purdy's 4-2 with a 94.3 passer rating in the playoffs.  I know he doesn't look like a typical modern franchise QB but he's better than people are giving him credit for imo..

[klos63]

What's the alternative? He's had playoff success,  they could do much worse.

 

We need to count our blessings. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Came off arrogant and aloof and as though he was doing them a favour just being there. Now the Bills wasn't the most attractive destination at the time, that's fair. But he also wasn't the hottest coordinator on the block after leaving Cleveland after one season. Interview was described as very short and with mutual loathing.

[Beast]

1 hour ago, klos63 said:

What's the alternative? He's had playoff success,  they could do much worse.

 

We need to count our blessings. 

With the way QB’s have become available the past couple years, doubling down and paying top dollar for mediocrity should not have been the alternative. 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Beast

[Alphadawg7]

I’ve watched pretty much every game Purdy has ever played in the NFL as my wife is a die hard Niners fan. 
 

2 things I’m confident in.
 

1.  Many people in this thread have not

watched him play a lot and seem to have a lot of strong opinions based on preconceived assumptions. 

 

2.  He’s better than many are giving him

credit for.  
 

Will he live up to the contract? We will

see, but it’s not as egregious as it’s being made out to be IMHO.