H2o Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago This is depth. We have some 2's, solid Slots, and depth guys. Josh will still be Josh. Another 40+ combined TD season. Hopefully, Moore can catch a few of those. 2 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Watched a few "every target" videos from his time with Cleveland. Here's a game reel that gives you a good look at his pros and cons: I like that he is getting some decent separation. He has good vertical speed. Not sure he can consistently get through physical press coverage but he can run past defenders. The one deep catch in this reel it didn't look to me like he actually stayed inbounds even though they called it a catch, but you can see the speed and the ball tracking on that play. Biggest concern that jumps out is he plays small. He has no catch radius at all. Flacco sucks, that much is obvious, but I thought a couple of the incompletions here would have been caught by a more physically gifted WR. Also he isn't elusive with the ball in his hands. So kind of a low margin for error WR and I think he'll have trouble breaking into the lineup over Shakir and Samuel. But there is a baseline NFL skill set there at least. 4 1 1 Quote
chris heff Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, cgang said: Kind of serious question- does the Moore signing mean the Bills are no longer a possible landing spot for Keenan Allen? https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2025/04/30/keenan-allen-buffalo-bills-nfl-free-agent-stats-age-chicago-bears/83364175007/ I’d bring him in too, reminiscent of a 33 year old James Lofton. 2 Quote
FLFan Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 13 minutes ago, boyst said: They're vastly different players. Hollins was limited in his role but impactful in his time. Coleman needs to have a bigger impact with more time. Steep hill and hard row to hoe for the young man. I agree - very different players but playing a very similar role, minus the special teams. Had Coleman continued to improve after his injury, Hollins role on the field would have been continually reduced. He took on more than his share because Coleman hit a wall. He is a more talented player than Hollins. He will be expected to start living up to his draft position this year. Who will pick up Hollins ST role is a more apt question. It’s a big challenge for the young man but it is now or never. Quote
Dunkirk Donski Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 45 minutes ago, FLFan said: They are very different players with different skill sets obviously. If Coleman gets up to speed, they will not miss Hollins in the least. “If Coleman gets up to speed” Enough with the slow jokes dude 🧐 1 1 1 1 Quote
FLFan Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 29 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: The Bills play positionless at WR. When are people going to realize this. Guys aren’t Xs and Zs and Fs. They move guys around based on the packages they want to play. Fair point. Thanks. Quote
Success Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Shakir Coleman Palmer Samuel Moore That, to me, is a very mid WR corps. And by mid, I mean middle of the pack in the NFL - which is very good w/ me if we're building a true top-tier defense. Nowhere near the worst in the league, as has been discussed here. 5 Quote
VW82 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago (edited) Good signing. Now we have five WRs with vet experience / pedigree. The ridiculous part of Beane's rant was always about the depth. If two of our top four had gotten hurt at the same time, we would've been F'd. At least now we have someone proven to step in. Edited 18 hours ago by VW82 1 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, HamptonBillsfan said: He had over 60 receptions with 3 different QBs last season. I’m predicting upwards of 80 this coming year. Our most receptions last year was Shakir with 76. Next highest was Kincaid at 44... There's no way Moore is getting more than 80. First he has to make the team. 3 1 Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Low risk high reward. We should have a better WR room purely on development and return from injury but this sounds like a Hollins level replacment 2 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 34 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: So beat them all out and there wont be a problem, won't hurt him if he's good enough. Any one of these WR's other than Shakircan win those outside WR spots imo, time to earn it. Well it’s more than just that I get your what you’re saying though. They’re not going to not play Coleman as he’s a high draft pick and Samuel is going to be on the roster because his contract will dictate that. They paid Palmer solid # 3 money so Shavers opportunity is Moore and maybeeee Samuel Quote
The Wiz Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago The twitterverse is getting so bad regarding "WGR vs Beane" I almost want to start going into the political threads. 1 2 Quote
papazoid Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago i knew he'd take our deal.....good move for both him and the bills 1 Quote
Redblood Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Jeremy's argument of getting cheap labor by drafting every year or two at the position has its validity too. Its a must when you are in salary cap purgatory i wish we would have drafted a qb late. Strictly as a backup. lets face it, if josh goes down we are done. But a late rd pick on a roomie deal for a backup makes sense to me 47 minutes ago, billsfanfrom83 said: Whats the over under on how many games before his dad is b****ing about how he is used here 2-3 Id say 3 tops 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: I like the idea of a 25 yo player more than bringing a player like cooper. Did they need it last year, yes. Did he help, in a sense. Either way, did you really think that the QB talent in Cleveland should have been more productive than it was? I'll take a flyer on a guy who hasn't worked out with other teams over the older guy who "still kinda has it but lost a step". Great point 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Our most receptions last year was Shakir with 76. Next highest was Kincaid at 44... There's no way Moore is getting more than 80. First he has to make the team. The amount of guaranteed money will determine how likely he is to make the roster. IMO he doesn’t sign with Buffalo without having a reasonable assurance. I think he takes a lot of snaps on the outside, especially considering that I don’t think will see a different version of Keon Coleman than we saw last season 47 minutes ago, Redblood said: Word is that coleman has added muscle this yr. Maybe he can be stronger on contested balls His problem was route running and not getting separation a lot more than it was missing contested catches. Quote
Nihilarian Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Special K said: I think it explains exactly why he acted that way on the radio show......2 radio guys who only have half the information are dogging him for not drafting a WR, when Beane already had a plan in place if the receivers he wanted did not fall to him in the draft. He was basically telling them "I am thinking 4 steps ahead of you......don't assume I don't know what I am doing because I didn't do the thing you wanted me to do." Agreed! He probably signed him to shut everyone up, as even USA Today in their power rankings stated that the Bills should have drafted a WR! Most Bills fans have been bleating endlessly about how the weakest part of the team is the WR corps. The thing is that Tom Brady and the Patriots spent a decade without that superstar #1 WR. The Earnhardt-Perkins scheme that the Patriots used to run and Buffalo utilize that strong run game and move the chains passing game until they reach the end zone, and then punch it in...same at the SB winning Patriots. How did the Bengals fare last season with their two elite WRs? The 49ers? The Dolphins with super speedster Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle with paying their QB, receivers so much that the rest of the team is lacking. The very last thing this team needs is a diva WR like Diggs who wants all the passes his way and still complains. Been there, done that! 2 2 Quote
Yobogoya! Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 9 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Low risk high reward. We should have a better WR room purely on development and return from injury but this sounds like a Hollins level replacment No one can ever replace Mack Hollins (in our hearts) 😭 Quote
2003Contenders Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Welp. Already started. 🤣 Maybe I am missing something but Shakir, Coleman and Samuel were all on the team last year. Hollins is gone and has ostensibly been replaced by Palmer. Amari Cooper is gone and now potentially replaced by Moore. So not sure why Clay seems to think there is not enough room for all of them. 3 2 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Kind of amazing how different this team is than drought teams. Back then, we might have one great receiver, two passable guys, and barely 2-3 more to round it out. If someone got injured, we would be in a tough spot. Now, we will have to cut probably 3 guys who can probably start or get meaningful snaps for other teams. 2 Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 10 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Well it’s more than just that I get your what you’re saying though. They’re not going to not play Coleman as he’s a high draft pick and Samuel is going to be on the roster because his contract will dictate that. They paid Palmer solid # 3 money so Shavers opportunity is Moore and maybeeee Samuel If you can't beat those guys you don't deserve a roster spot to be honest. 1 Quote
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