Augie Posted May 14 Posted May 14 (edited) 18 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Too poor? Anyway, it's a business. Any owner would and should take pause before agreeing to pay maybe 20 million more, per year, for one guy on one of the worst Defenses in the league. Throw out the publicly owned Packers, and the Bengals are the only NFL team whose owner is not a billionaire with a net worth of $925Mil. When they give Burrow or Higgins’s a big contract, all that guaranteed money, hundreds of millions of dollars, has to be placed in escrow. They have a cheap mindset, but there is also the practical/financial side of things….they have limitations other teams do not. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-richest-owners-net-worth-ranked/ . Edited May 14 by Augie 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Bills do not have the space for Hendrickson, at least they don’t unless they move some real salary/cash spend off their books. The Bengals probably won’t trade him to anyone, but there’s almost zero chance it would be to the Bills if they did. They’re the Bengals. They’re going to make him play out his deal or retire. Mike Brown is about making money, not winning. That’s what everything he does is about. He has to spend up to the cap floor and do enough to keep the fans engaged, but he’s not going to do much more than that. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Augie said: Throw out the publicly owned Packers, and the Bengals are the only NFL team whose owner is not a billionaire with a net worth of $925Mil. When they give Burrow or Higgins’s a big contract, all that guaranteed money, hundreds of millions of dollars, has to be placed in escrow. They have a cheap mindset, but there is also the practical/financial side of things….they have limitations other teams do not. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-richest-owners-net-worth-ranked/ . teams, which clear 30, 40, 100+ million a year (ever increasing, given the guaranteed cap increases) put the money in escrow. the owner (or the town of Green Bay) doesn't wire the money from his bank account. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 4 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Hendrickson is not playing for the Bengals. He is willing to sit out the season rather than not get a new deal. They probably assured him that after he signed a one year extension in 2023 that they would "take care" of him longer term after the 2024 season. Hendrickson had a great 2024 and now he wants to get paid on the last year of his contract. He views them as being "dishonorable" and with only one year left on his contract he knows the Bengals leverage is less. The Bengals don't want to commit big money to an older pass rusher. We can at least be assured that Hendrickson is not playing for the Bengals. Honestly I am also not sure what team has the cap space and "win now" willingness to trade a good (I would say the Bengals aren't taking less than a 2nd rounder) draft pick for him either. It's a sticky situation and I could honestly see it ending with Hendrickson sitting out the year. Nobody is trading for him without permission to talk to his agent about a contract. Theyre going to want a long term extension somewhere... but if they cant get it. The next best for Trey/Agent is playing out his last year in another uniform.... that's going to hurt Bengals bounty. 1year rental, 31 or 30yrs old, high cap hit even just to play out the year. He's def worth a 4th IMO, might be a few offers for a 3rd rd'er if teams think theyll get a fair shake at negotiating first in offseason. Quote
DCofNC Posted May 14 Posted May 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Nobody is trading for him without permission to talk to his agent about a contract. Theyre going to want a long term extension somewhere... but if they cant get it. The next best for Trey/Agent is playing out his last year in another uniform.... that's going to hurt Bengals bounty. 1year rental, 31 or 30yrs old, high cap hit even just to play out the year. He's def worth a 4th IMO, might be a few offers for a 3rd rd'er if teams think theyll get a fair shake at negotiating first in offseason. I’m sure if they decide to trade him, they will let the other side work out a deal with him, they’re only costing themselves return if they don’t. He’s worth a 4th as a rental, but if he refuses to play on that deal anyway, there’s got to be a negotiation w the next team. Edited May 14 by DCofNC Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Cincy, would never trade a top 5 DE to a competitive rival like us. They know even though they’ve owned us, they want to ship him if traded to a loser team that Ned’s the talent. Hey, I’d love him too, but I’m practical. I agree but when you look at Cinci's Owner, you have to ask: is he more poor or more desperate LOL they should know they aint competing with us in the next 2 years... get what they can where they can get it 1 Quote
DCofNC Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Just now, BillsShredder83 said: I agree but when you look at Cinci's Owner, you have to ask: is he more poor or more desperate LOL they should know they aint competing with us in the next 2 years... get what they can where they can get it Don’t be so sure, nobody gave Indiana a shot vs Cleveland in the NBA this year and they spanked them in 5 games, in the NFL it’s who’s better for that particular 60 minutes. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Just now, BillsShredder83 said: Nobody is trading for him without permission to talk to his agent about a contract. Theyre going to want a long term extension somewhere... but if they cant get it. The next best for Trey/Agent is playing out his last year in another uniform.... that's going to hurt Bengals bounty. 1year rental, 31 or 30yrs old, high cap hit even just to play out the year. He's def worth a 4th IMO, might be a few offers for a 3rd rd'er if teams think theyll get a fair shake at negotiating first in offseason. If he's not playing for the bengals under that contract, i doubt he's playing with anyone else. You'd have to at least offer him a raise on the 1yr 16M deal you'd be acquiring, maybe with a guarantee not to tag included. But most acquiring teams would probably extend him so that they could reduce that cap hit for 2025. Just now, DCofNC said: I’m sure if they decide to trade him, they will let the other side work out a deal with him, they’re only costing themselves return if they don’t. He’s worth a 4th as a rental, but if he refuses to play on that deal anyway, there’s got to be a negotiation w the next team. Unless it's the jets... see Hasaan Reddick 🙂 1 1 Quote
starrymessenger Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) Bengals can't afford him after paying Burrow, Tee and Chase. Thing to do was trade Tee, draft their new #2 and extend Hendrickson. Their O would still be very good and their awful D would be a lot better than it will now be. The receivers are represented by the same agent and it was apparently made clear to the Bengals that they came as a pair. You could not ask for more from a player than Hendrickson has given, on and off the field. At his age now is the time for him to get paid. They are going to trade him. Edited May 15 by starrymessenger 1 Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted May 15 Posted May 15 19 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: teams, which clear 30, 40, 100+ million a year (ever increasing, given the guaranteed cap increases) put the money in escrow. the owner (or the town of Green Bay) doesn't wire the money from his bank account. Are you under the impression the team has a new 100M+ liquid in their bank accounts annually? Quote
Mr. WEO Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said: Are you under the impression the team has a new 100M+ liquid in their bank accounts annually? no read my post. The lowest number cleared is about 30 million per year. It goes up from there . This is easily available info…. Quote
TheFunPolice Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I remember when the Raiders were poor... then they moved to LV and now Davis has boatloads of cash 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Wednesday at 01:04 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:04 PM Not only their star veteran DE holding out, but also their 2025 1ST ROUND PICK, as the Bengals FO tries to nickel and dime and screw players out of money. A ROOOKIE going at the FO like this before camp even starts, and before he even has any contract signed! Bengals are asking him to put clauses in his contract about giving back GUARANTEED money if he is cut. No rookie has ever been asked to do that. Plus, that makes it NOT GUARANTEED. Frickin Mike Brown... 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted Wednesday at 01:12 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:12 PM 7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not only their star veteran DE holding out, but also their 2025 1ST ROUND PICK, as the Bengals FO tries to nickel and dime and screw players out of money. A ROOOKIE going at the FO like this before camp even starts, and before he even has any contract signed! Bengals are asking him to put clauses in his contract about giving back GUARANTEED money if he is cut. No rookie has ever been asked to do that. Plus, that makes it NOT GUARANTEED. Frickin Mike Brown... Bengals are gonna Bengal 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted Wednesday at 01:23 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:23 PM On 5/15/2025 at 11:02 AM, TheFunPolice said: I remember when the Raiders were poor... then they moved to LV and now Davis has boatloads of cash Didn't Davis have to sell a minority stake in the team to be able to afford to keep up more? I'm sure the move to Vegas helped but I do think they got some liquidity by selling 15-20% of the team at a good evaluation. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted Wednesday at 02:36 PM Posted Wednesday at 02:36 PM 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Not only their star veteran DE holding out, but also their 2025 1ST ROUND PICK, as the Bengals FO tries to nickel and dime and screw players out of money. A ROOOKIE going at the FO like this before camp even starts, and before he even has any contract signed! Bengals are asking him to put clauses in his contract about giving back GUARANTEED money if he is cut. No rookie has ever been asked to do that. Plus, that makes it NOT GUARANTEED. Frickin Mike Brown... I am very thankful that the Bengals are still like this. They failed upwardly into superstars like Burrow and Chase and if they were competent they would have been cashing in every year on having 4 legit difference makers at key positions. The mercurial Ralph Wilson won in the 1980's and 1990's because the AFC was loaded with owners who made Ralph look decent by comparison. Colts, Patriots, Oilers/Titans, Bengals, Chargers........a real bunch of dumpster fires at the top. You can trace the Bills organizational decline to the influx of more progressive new owners. It didn't put them in the drought but it kept them there. 4 1 Quote
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