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  On 12/9/2024 at 12:49 AM, djp14150 said:

I would have declined the penalty and see what they did on 4 th and 7.  They key was holding then to a FG or no score and having time left,

 

if the D stopped them buffalo likely manages the clock to possibly win the game

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You decline the penalty if only to save the time on the clock.

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  On 12/9/2024 at 12:48 AM, Roundybout said:


It barely moved the needle. We were toast as it was.

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This is so dense. The call by the coach was a disaster in it of itself, there is literally no defending it, which is why you won’t. 
 

He cost us with 23 seconds and he’s going to do it again in the playoffs. You could literally see it on Josh’s face. He knew it was over as soon as McD called the most amateur timeout of the season. 

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  On 12/9/2024 at 12:49 AM, jkeerie said:

By taking the penalty, the Bills take LA out of FG range and make it 3rd and 17.  The problem was the defense giving up 12 yds on the next play, making it 4th down...then giving up the 5 yds.  I don't fault McD.  Our defense could not stop LA, and specifically Nakua all game.  The Rams offensive starters made the plays when they needed to.  For that matter, so did the Bills.  It was that dang blocked punt for a TD that made the difference.

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THAT is why it’s on McD.  You can’t take the penalty, then sit in a soft zone, letting them right back to the same place and burning clock.  Absolutely stupid.

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TImeout is fireable. Absolutely inexcusable.

 

The accepting of the penalty...two things can be true. 99% chance the Rams get a TD even if they decline the penalty. There's no way the D was stopping them. But...McD still should have declined it.

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Pick your poison, atrocious end of game management or atrocious D? McDermott’s D gave up 44 freakin points. They stayed in soft zone the entire game and got absolutely smoked. The DL might as well just raised their hands when pass rushing because they failed miserably rushing the passer!

 

Really disappointing at this stage in McDermott’s HC career, these thing keep reoccurring. 

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  On 12/9/2024 at 12:49 AM, jkeerie said:

By taking the penalty, the Bills take LA out of FG range and make it 3rd and 17.  The problem was the defense giving up 12 yds on the next play, making it 4th down...then giving up the 5 yds.  I don't fault McD.  Our defense could not stop LA, and specifically Nakua all game.  The Rams offensive starters made the plays when they needed to.  For that matter, so did the Bills.  It was that dang blocked punt for a TD that made the difference.

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I can't stand McDermott and wanted him gone years ago, but I agree with this logic and I did in the moment. I mean for Christ sake make a play on 3rd and 17. An incomplete pass there and they are punting. 

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  On 12/9/2024 at 12:51 AM, HomeskillitMoorman said:


This is so dense. The call by the coach was a disaster in it of itself, there is literally no defending it, which is why you won’t. 
 

He cost us with 23 seconds and he’s going to do it again in the playoffs. You could literally see it on Josh’s face. He knew it was over as soon as McD called the most amateur timeout of the season. 

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A disaster. A league-altering decision. Will forever go in the history books as the worst coaching decision in history. 
 

 

Oh wait. 
 

 

 

 

It’s a a loss. It happens. Move on 

Posted
  On 12/9/2024 at 12:46 AM, ScotSHO said:

I think that was a JA audible.  They didn't line up in their typical butt push formation.

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No it was a run the whole time. They had their heavy formation out there.

 

Run should never have been an option in that situation.

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  On 12/9/2024 at 12:51 AM, DCofNC said:


THAT is why it’s on McD.  You can’t take the penalty, then sit in a soft zone, letting them right back to the same place and burning clock.  Absolutely stupid.

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The last I checked, Babich calls the defense.

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Posted
  On 12/9/2024 at 12:45 AM, Process said:

Hey @Simon why keep my title but not have me as OP?

 

I feel very passionately about this topic please give me my thread back

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I merged the two threads and it put that post at the top for some reason.

Nothing to be done about it

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Full disclosure: I wanted McD fired after the 13 seconds game. 

 

I really don't think the timeout today was a problem.

 

Under no circumstances should we have been kicking the ball off deep with <1 minute to play and rely on our DEF to force a 3 and out. The DEF that allowed 38 points and forced 1 punt the entire game. 

 

I'll take my chances with the on-side kick and using the timeout immediately gives the offense more time if we did miraculously recover the kick. 

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  On 12/9/2024 at 12:49 AM, jkeerie said:

By taking the penalty, the Bills take LA out of FG range and make it 3rd and 17.  The problem was the defense giving up 12 yds on the next play, making it 4th down...then giving up the 5 yds.  I don't fault McD.  Our defense could not stop LA, and specifically Nakua all game.  The Rams offensive starters made the plays when they needed to.  For that matter, so did the Bills.  It was that dang blocked punt for a TD that made the difference.

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They hadn’t stopped the Rams all game. The Head Coach should know that. It was a given that they were either converting it or getting a lot of yards. 

 

Not to mention the time waste.

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