DJB Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 So now that we know our first two picks, you guys wouldn’t trade Coleman, Bishop and our 2025 1st for Odunze? Heck yes I would 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, DJB said: So now that we know our first two picks, you guys wouldn’t trade Coleman, Bishop and our 2025 1st for Odunze? Heck yes I would 1000 times out of 1000 yes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, racketmaster said: In the consensus top 15 wrs, the Bills managed to take the one guy I was hoping they would avoid due to lack of speed and separation. He is a contested catch guy which is a hard way to make a living but who knows maybe Coleman can manage to make it work for him in the NFL. He is still young, so many he can learn to become a more savvy route runner in order to gain a little more separation from defenders. You are really hoping that Brady can scheme space for him but it’ll be tough. as a wr2 with Kincaid-cook-and a future WR1 it’s easier for him to pull it off. it’s hard to picture that guy as still productive as a focal point for defensive coordinators though. Gabe Davis as our too slow deep threat that disappeared for weeks but could make plays We will see if Coleman can run a more complete route tree and have a bit more suddenness in his breaks. Better hands will help but the speed is a potential limiting factor no doubt. There’s no way around acknowledging it as a real concern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I had a feeling about a month ago that Coleman was going to be our pick, and I’m fine with it. He’s a great athlete, good size, an absolute baller. He’s going to be in the league a long time. It’s becoming clear that—at least with their premium picks—the Bills want younger players, with no injury history and no character concerns. They are not going to gamble on guys like AD Mitchell or Jermaine Burton…just not who they are as a franchise. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 After some time to reflect. I like the Coleman pick. When Josh is scrambling and he chucks it, Coleman has the catch radius to get it. He definitely plays faster than his 40 time. Comparing him to X Worthy, he has proven attributes for long term success. There have been other successful players with his profile. At 165 lbs, Worthy is an outlier with not many similar body builds who have had long term careers. Having said that, he will probably burn us for a TD, then get injured the following week. I’m still curious why they didn’t choose Legitt. Maybe it was the age difference - 20 vs 23 for Legitt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, mannc said: I had a feeling about a month ago that Coleman was going to be our pick, and I’m fine with it. He’s a great athlete, good size, an absolute baller. He’s going to be in the league a long time. It’s becoming clear that—at least with their premium picks—the Bills want younger players, with no injury history and no character concerns. They are not going to gamble on guys like AD Mitchell or Jermaine Burton…just not who they are as a franchise. I listed him as a likely target like a month ago too…. But then he kind of fell from my board. Early in the process and with diggs still I thought they’d want a bigger frame guy. When diggs left I started keying on locking in a true WR1 prototype more which I don’t think he has the gifts to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: I listed him as a likely target like a month ago too…. But then he kind of fell from my board. Early in the process and with diggs still I thought they’d want a bigger frame guy. When diggs left I started keying on locking in a true WR1 prototype more which I don’t think he has the gifts to be He's a Gabe Davis replacement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I keep hearing that Coleman has much better hands that Gabe Davis but his catch rate was 57.5% last year which was definitely on the lower end of draft prospects. Part of the lower catch rate has to do with such a high portion of his catches ending up being contested since there is no separation. When he makes the jump ball or contested catch it ends up on his highlights and many are sensational plays. However, when you watch all of his targets you see a lot of drops and battles he did not win and come down with the ball. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckets Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I'm thinking a Davis replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 His catch rate was even lower than Johnny Wilson I’m assuming that that wanted a physical blocking presence in the run game similar to what Gabe brought but that just seems to high of a pick for his skill set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Beane has lost his mojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 people may look at Coleman as Benjamin, id rather look at him as possibly a Mike Evans. Evans isnt a burner either, but his big body is going to get him in the HoF eventually. ya it may be a stretch, but u cant teach size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: He's a Gabe Davis replacement. I'll tell you what, if Day 3 starts with word that the Bills have traded a bunch of 5ths and next year's 2nd (keeping the pick we got for Diggs) for Courtland Sutton I will feel a whole lot better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: people may look at Coleman as Benjamin, id rather look at him as possibly a Mike Evans. Evans isnt a burner either, but his big body is going to get him in the HoF eventually. ya it may be a stretch, but u cant teach size. I would rather look at him as that too but that’s not likely to leave you happy. he’s probably somewhere between gabe and mike Williams Good enough to give you ammo to tell the haters to be quiet he didn’t bust but not a guy that is a WR1 4 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I'll tell you what, if Day 3 starts with word that the Bills have traded a bunch of 5ths and next year's 2nd (keeping the pick we got for Diggs) for Courtland Sutton I will feel a whole lot better I don’t think you even need the 2 for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlton Bills Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 13 hours ago, Beck Water said: We got to level up his taste in wings Take him to Gabriel’s Gate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 36 minutes ago, NoSaint said: You are really hoping that Brady can scheme space for him but it’ll be tough. as a wr2 with Kincaid-cook-and a future WR1 it’s easier for him to pull it off. it’s hard to picture that guy as still productive as a focal point for defensive coordinators though. Gabe Davis as our too slow deep threat that disappeared for weeks but could make plays We will see if Coleman can run a more complete route tree and have a bit more suddenness in his breaks. Better hands will help but the speed is a potential limiting factor no doubt. There’s no way around acknowledging it as a real concern. Watching a little of his game now. He reminds me a little bit of Deandre Hopkins, actually. Hopkins ran a 4.57. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 9 hours ago, Big Turk said: That doesn't make sense. Before you would trade a pick, why wouldn't you ask them if they planned on taking "this person"? Right? Not to mention Dan Morgan, President of Football Ops in Carolina played for Carolina while Beane was President of Football Ops and worked under Beane before going back to Carolina. Of all the scenarios, Legette “sneaking” to Carolina after it was telegraphed all week and Beane’s relationship with Dan Morgan wasn’t one of them. And to base it all off of “my buddy guessed the first two picks so it must be right.”? Bahaha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Watching a little of his game now. He reminds me a little bit of Deandre Hopkins, actually. Hopkins ran a 4.57. The comp I’ve been pushing upthread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bravo Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 12 hours ago, Julio Hopkins said: He has done a solid job proving he isn't smarter than everyone else for the past 5 years. We have the second most wins in the NFL over the past 4 years. How do we keep doing that with such terrible players picked by such an awful GM and coached by such a incompetent head coach? I’ve been reading this forum for 20 years and never post, but I felt compelled to ask. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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