Magox Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 14 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: We've got Curtis Samuel and Shakir already working the slot. What is this infatuation with McConkey? Because he's not just a slot guy, he's also a boundary wide receiver and he is the best route runner in this draft. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Magox said: Because he's not just a slot guy, he's also a boundary wide receiver and he is the best route runner in this draft. The best route runner? According to who? We need an X guy and Ladd isn't that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 11 hours ago, NoSaint said: cam you imagine if he also raps, and has controversial vaccination views? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 14 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: The best route runner? According to who? We need an X guy and Ladd isn't that. He is not the best route runner in the draft. If the argument was he is the best route runner outside the top 3.... I could buy that. Of that next group: Thomas, Legette, Mitchell, McConkey and Worthy - which it does seem is increasingly seen as the consensus next cluster - Ladd is the best route runner in terms of precision route running. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 McConkey injury history worries me. He just seemed more effective at screens and slot play. I just don't think we need this type of player. Legette all the way. He fits what we need to almost perfection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I gotta say, if we are talking first round pick between these two, its Legette for me. His size and speed combo has the potential to be one of the top wr in the game. That one play he has against Miss St where he just blows by everyone for a 70 yd td, a guy that big that can move like that has to be accounted for by the defense and would allow us to dictate to them 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: The best route runner? According to who? We need an X guy and Ladd isn't that. According to some people who give opinions. 🙃 And I don't believe in the old way of thinking that teams need to have a traditional x, y, z receivers. The game evolves, it's about matchups and I like the idea of having interchangeable parts on the offense where guys can perform each of the functions, which Samuels, Shakir and in this case Ladd could do. The bottom line for me is who is going to be able to perform at a high level in the pros and I believe Ladd is the better answer. With that said, if the Bills select Legette, I will be happy with that pick as well. I love his speed, power and explosive playmaking ability. I just am a bit more unsure of him having a good NFL career, I think his boom bust potential is higher than Ladd's, with that said, he could end up becoming a more explosive Eric Moulds sort of guy. I'd be happy with either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I'm not sure he's the best route runner of all WR's but analytics does say he creates better separation than any other wr. Supposedly Buffalo has on last meeiting with Legette, last night, so he may be their target at 28, if the don't move up. I think it's him or Worthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: I'm not sure he's the best route runner of all WR's but analytics does say he creates better separation than any other wr. Supposedly Buffalo has on last meeiting with Legette, last night, so he may be their target at 28, if the don't move up. I think it's him or Worthy Where did you see that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 What do people think McConkey’s ceiling is? This is my hang up with the kid. I think he’s gonna be a good pro. Will be a guy with a defined role but also has some versatility. But will he ever be a top 10 WR? Maybe once or twice statistically. But will he ever be upper echelon elite? Imo, never. I could see him being the second or third most productive rookie. Which is nice. But will he ever be an NFL offensive focal point? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I would take Legette at 28, not McConkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCOrange Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, FireChans said: What do people think McConkey’s ceiling is? This is my hang up with the kid. I think he’s gonna be a good pro. Will be a guy with a defined role but also has some versatility. But will he ever be a top 10 WR? Maybe once or twice statistically. But will he ever be upper echelon elite? Imo, never. I could see him being the second or third most productive rookie. Which is nice. But will he ever be an NFL offensive focal point? I think the Diggs comp someone else made is too strong for my blood. Could definitely see him being a Tyler Lockett type, who had a few seasons where he was a borderline top 10-12 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 4/23/2024 at 9:46 AM, MarlinTheMagician said: Curious - if you had to chose between Legette and McConkey at 28 -- who do you take? Personally I take McConkey (but I really like Legette too). My thinking is -- McConkey is may be the best separator in the draft. If a receiver can separate Josh will find him (as he found Beasly). After Harrison and Odumze, other than Legette, there are not big-bodied X's I truly love. I like Thomas, but I assume he is gone (and he is not really a size match-up problem). I don't trust Mitchell or Franklin, do not like Coleman or Walker. I would take McConkey and be sure to get Brendan Rice later. While he has some limitations, all scouting reports seem to say that the 6'4" Rice has elite acceleration and can really take the top off. Having an X that can do that would be great. Shakir and McConkey can be really strong mixed through as the Z and slot. Both of them can get deep as well. Personally, I would take McConkey, Defense at 60, move up from 128 to get Rice and spend the rest of my picks on defense (save maybe an IOL and very late RB (like pick 248)). Thoughts? If McConkey is like Beasley then he should be a must for Josh because even though there are those here that hated Bease because he spoke his mind but he was definitely a very dependable WR for Josh . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 9 minutes ago, T master said: If McConkey is like Beasley then he should be a must for Josh because even though there are those here that hated Bease because he spoke his mind but he was definitely a very dependable WR for Josh . He like Beasley with more speed 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Where did you see that? Reception perception I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I want McConkey and Legette. I think you need a movement Z and an X. If I have to choose, I'll take McConkey and find another X. I'd take Mitchell, for example, even with his question marks. But I suspect Beane is going to pay the price to move up for Thomas if he has to. Maybe he falls a bit, as some recent mocks appear to anticipate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 33 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I want McConkey and Legette. I think you need a movement Z and an X. If I have to choose, I'll take McConkey and find another X. I'd take Mitchell, for example, even with his question marks. But I suspect Beane is going to pay the price to move up for Thomas if he has to. Maybe he falls a bit, as some recent mocks appear to anticipate. Beane will try to move up, no doubt. He already is trying. If a guy falls even a bit that they like, we know Beane's track record. That said, I think this WR class is so deep, better to trade back and get two guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 9 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said: Beane will try to move up, no doubt. He already is trying. If a guy falls even a bit that they like, we know Beane's track record. That said, I think this WR class is so deep, better to trade back and get two guys I'm not opposed to that. I guess it also depends on if they have a group of players with similar ratings. My inclination would be to take a fella at 28 that I liked (bird in hand,) then try and trade up from 60 for the other WR. (I'd be willing to use a 2025 second to do so.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerstAusGosheim Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 4/23/2024 at 11:33 AM, Motorin' said: You can say that again! Haha what a bizarre glitch. I only wrote it once!!! Haha what a... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I have no idea why so much love for McConkey. I mean, he was good in college, in college schemes as a gadget guy, but i don't know how that equates into our needs on the team. If we were looking for a smaller slot guy, then yeah, maybe pick McConkey but that's not what we're looking for. And i pray to Christ that if Beane has never heard me before, i hope he's hearing me now that we can surely do better than McConkey can't we?........which i know he isn't listening cause at the end of the day, who am i? I have problems. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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