Don Otreply Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 3 hours ago, Rico said: Yeah, right. Bet he’s banging his moms girl friends, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I like when I read a thread title and know I’m going to disagree with the subject matter before I read the OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I haven't seen this much 'irrational exuberance' since Sills V. 🤨 * BTW, where has Sherlock Holmes been lately? 🤔 Vigorously swiping right on Christian Mingle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Hes a great player. Wouldn't be upset if he was the pick at #28. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 IMO, finding a starting safety is more important than finding a #2 WR 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 College level speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Just now, bills6969 said: IMO, finding a starting safety is more important than finding a #2 WR Its not though. In a weak class why draft for a need? Desean is a corner. Who knows how long or ever he learns the position to take over Edwards or Rapp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Its not though. In a weak class why draft for a need? Desean is a corner. Who knows how long or ever he learns the position to take over Edwards or Rapp. He’s a FS which is basically a DB that isn’t quick enough to play DB. He’s a Hyde clone. Edited March 30 by bills6969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 14 minutes ago, bills6969 said: IMO, finding a starting safety is more important than finding a #2 WR The defensive backfield is the strength of the coaching staff. They can find someone they can get by with. I'm considerably less confident of their ability to find a starting caliber WR later in the draft. And then the are the longer term contract considerations. With FA WR costs skyrocketing, it's more valuable to have that position on cost controlled contracts than it is a safety. And then there's the fact that DeJean would be a projection to safety. He's a college corner and that's where I'd give him his first shot in the NFL. Maybe he can play safety, but maybe he can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 4 hours ago, Rico said: Yeah, right. Looks like 'Saved By the Bell's Slater and Zack had a love child. 🤨 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 4 hours ago, NoSaint said: we passed on paying tons of very good and proven veteran safeties peanuts. Wasn’t a priority, so why spend our most valuable resource on one now? go get a receiver or pass rusher that’s two to three times as costly in free agency There wasn't a player like this in FA that's capable of being a Minkah Fitzpatrick type. IMO, that multi-faceted DB could put our defense over the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I'd much rather find a way to trade back up into the third and take Javon Bullard or Cole Bishop. WR in round one or trade back into the early second and take WR. That should be the play. I don't like the edge players likely to be there at #28. If Newton is sitting there, I'll understand taking him at #28. He's a really good player, but it's not what I would want to do. I do think McD would love to have this fella on the team. So would I, if it doesn't mean you spent #28 to get him. 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: There wasn't a player like this in FA that's capable of being a Minkah Fitzpatrick type. IMO, that multi-faceted DB could put our defense over the edge. Well, I think it would put the fan base over the edge. Except for you, you like that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: Well, I think it would put the fan base over the edge. Except for you, you like that sort of thing. 99% of the this fanbase is completely clueless, so whatever they hate is usually the right move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I'd much rather find a way to trade back up into the third... Then quit letting Goodell **** us out of conditional draft pick placement. 🤬 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Just now, BullBuchanan said: 99% of the this fanbase is completely clueless, so whatever they hate is usually the right move. I know you think you're brighter than the rest of us. The wise are few, but taking an unpopular opinion doesn't mean you're right. As I wrote above, I like the player, just not the cost. And I gave alternatives that I think are excellent players. If you view Dejean as a unicorn, that might justify the choice, but I know from other threads we just have strong strategic and interpretive differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 No he doesn’t, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 5 hours ago, BBFL said: Agree completely. The only move up is for a WR with where we are at. And if Coop’ is there and 28 and hey select him, you can’t be mad. Hard to see him getting past Philly at #22(ish, 21?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 29 minutes ago, bills6969 said: He’s a FS which is basically a DB that isn’t quick enough to play DB. He’s a Hyde clone. Hyde was a mid rd pick. I understand what Hyde became. That was after playing multiple positions in the NFL. If you draft Copper rd 1 you are doing it thinking he can play Corner not to move him and play Saftey. If he is not quick enough to play corner you are assuming he has elite awareness to anticipate from a new perspective and position. The negatives as to why you are moving him only creates more questions for what he will be able to do at safety. I get a college slot transitioning to a pro safety. A player that has only played out wide is not a smooth transition to safety. Rd 1 is too rich. Beane and Mcdermott both stated instincts and awareness are more important than testing numbers. There is no telling what his awareness level is while looking at the whole picture instead of his own window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: 99% of the this fanbase is completely clueless, so whatever they hate is usually the right move. Yeah we should have gone with your idea and drafted Trenton Simpson in the 1st last year. Nevermind that he almost made it to our 3rd round pick. His 1 sack and 2 TFL on the season surely would have been the difference. Why he even played 61% of special teams snaps. If the rest of us weren't so clueless maybe we would have foreseen this elite production. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: There wasn't a player like this in FA that's capable of being a Minkah Fitzpatrick type. IMO, that multi-faceted DB could put our defense over the edge. and to my point: in your wildest dreams of his potential, you picked a guy with a paycheck between Jerry jeudy and Christian kirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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