Punching Bag Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 The Saints’ NFL salary cap doom spiral, explained The Saints are in NFL salary cap hell, with no way out. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2024/2/23/24080361/new-orleans-saints-salary-cap-hell-situation-explained-nfl-rules It is often said there is no real salary cap in NFL and that it may be true but the salary cap becomes a low ceiling for teams which over due it. Quote New Orleans has 55 players under contract for the 2024 season, plus they will need to pay their NFL Draft picks, plus fill out their roster with role players and depth. In the offseason, only the top 51 contracts count but by the start of the regular season, all 53 players on the roster plus the practice squad and reserve lists combined will all need to be under the cap. The Saints are going to need to hit the restructure button on a bunch of players. Again. I wonder when New Orleans starts trading picks for future picks just so they can have less to pay now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 How did the saints get this way when they’re just an average team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 The funny thing about this is that you read the doom and gloom of that article and the fact is: 2024 New Orleans Saints - 36m Over the Cap 2024 Buffalo Bills - 41m Over the Cap But the big difference is we have the core pieces of a Contender in place. They have a terrible team to begin with and have to tear it down even more. Plus side, it's not like they're going to get much worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: The funny thing about this is that you read the doom and gloom of that article and the fact is: 2024 New Orleans Saints - 36m Over the Cap 2024 Buffalo Bills - 41m Over the Cap But the big difference is we have the core pieces of a Contender in place. They have a terrible team to begin with and have to tear it down even more. Plus side, it's not like they're going to get much worse. The big differences, the bills have a franchise quarterback with a contract that is structured so that they can continue to restructure for cap relief 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 7 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: The funny thing about this is that you read the doom and gloom of that article and the fact is: 2024 New Orleans Saints - 36m Over the Cap 2024 Buffalo Bills - 41m Over the Cap But the big difference is we have the core pieces of a Contender in place. They have a terrible team to begin with and have to tear it down even more. Plus side, it's not like they're going to get much worse. Thats after the Saints did a lot of restructuring. Bills haven’t started yet. The key to pushing cap back is doing it with under 30 players that are good. Bills are in good shape moving forward. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Team needs a hard reset. They can post 6-1 cut a few guys and get under the cap and begin the rebuild 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I don't know how the Saints fully get out of this situation. Seems like a perpetual motion machine of salary. I can see them trading players away for next to nothing in return and as others said, trading draft picks away so you don't have to pay players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 If Michael Thomas is cut, I wonder what his market value is? Could be an intriguing option 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Team needs a hard reset. They can post 6-1 cut a few guys and get under the cap and begin the rebuild I assume that you’re picking out guys like Von Miller Tavius White as these post June for cuts But if we cut them now, they end up counting towards the cap in a big way and we are still in our Super Bowl window, so why would we do that Von Miller’s case he’s like one of the few at his position that we even have in the contract We’re not gonna drastically change this team they’re consistently winning their division, and being one of the top five teams in the NFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 31 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: How did the saints get this way when they’re just an average team They backloaded contracts while they had Brees to try and get a SB win. Now he is gone and their window officially closed. They’re probably going to have to suck for 2+ years to clear these bad contracts and rebuild 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I assume that you’re picking out guys like Von Miller Tavius White as these post June for cuts But if we cut them now, they end up counting towards the cap in a big way and we are still in our Super Bowl window, so why would we do that Von Miller’s case he’s like one of the few at his position that we even have in the contract We’re not gonna drastically change this team they’re consistently winning their division, and being one of the top five teams in the NFL This thread is about the saints. It’s pretty crystal clear in the title 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) 6 minutes ago, aristocrat said: This thread is about the saints. It’s pretty crystal clear in the title That’s my bad I thought that you were comparing the bills situation to the Saints situation Edited February 26 by John from Riverside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 The Saints have been in “salary cap hell” for like a decade at this point. It didn’t stop them from signing Derek Carr to a gigantic contract last offseason and it won’t stop them in the future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I read restructuring Allen this season will free up 23M alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Saints need to reset and get a rookie QB and rebuild through the draft. Too many free agent signings with high dollar contracts has put them in a bind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBob806 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: I read restructuring Allen this season will free up 23M alone. It just kicks the can down the road, like the Saints. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: If Michael Thomas is cut, I wonder what his market value is? Could be an intriguing option 31 years old, constantly injured, and has done nothing in the NFL in the last four years. Very intriguing 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 When you're cash-strapped, paying a gadget player in Taysom Hill $40MM is probably not the best way to get out of financial trouble. 2 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, DrBob806 said: It just kicks the can down the road, like the Saints. And that's fine when it's a young proven commodity at a critical position and not some aging slug at say DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 3 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: How did the saints get this way when they’re just an average team Because when Sean Payton left the front office and coaches didn’t want to take their medicine with a rebuild and made wild decisions that should be reserved for teams with at least a chance to compete. they continue To do so 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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