CaptnCoke11 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I’d rather have Elam than a 6th or 7th round pick they’d probably get in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I’d rather have Elam than a 6th or 7th round pick they’d probably get in return. To me, it’s all about whether or not he’s going to be in our future plans Is Elam going to be one of those guys in his last year of contract that breaks out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) I’d rather keep Elam and draft our own WR’s. Depth at CB is needed. Elam has shown flashes and I would hate to see him shown the door right yet. Edited February 13 by Beast 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) With a new DB’s coach I see it as very likely Elam stays here….but for the sake of the thread Elam for Cortland Sutton. Who could supposedly be moved for a mid round pick that would be a trade I’d be very interested in Sutton has the ability to be a dominant player with an elite QB IMO he had 10 TDs on 90 targets playing with Russ. Imagine him with Josh Edited February 13 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Don't hate the idea, would rather just draft a wr though Could be a trade idea for at the draft or post draft where the bills draft needs and draft board never got close in terms of value fir wr but still would like an additional young wr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: To me, it’s all about whether or not he’s going to be in our future plans Is Elam going to be one of those guys in his last year of contract that breaks out? If around, I’m hoping his breakout is in year three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I didn't know Burks played with Josh Allen. Btw not everything is about the underwear Olympics. Burks had a 70yd play this yr and in his rookie season I see a few big plays from him as well in 22 one game in particular was against the Packers where he had 111yds on 7 catches before getting injured on huge play in 3rd quarter he was also facing Jaire Alexander and Douglas at the corner spot that day. Titans drank the Koolaid on Burks and are regretting it now. Elam has similar bust potential but Bills have depth at CB and can wait on him. Not sure Burks can take over Gabe’s role which is what OBD is likely looking for if they bring a veteran in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 How about keep Elam and go after a guy like Terrace Marshall. Was at LSU when Brady was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 10 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I was looking around at depth charts of different teams for possible Beane type deal and came across Treylon Burks Wr from the Tennessee he's been underwhelming since being drafted by the Titans and now they have a new regime in place . The Titans have a desperate need for corner help and we have a big need for Wrs . The Bills should make an offer there bust for ours 😂 maybe Elam will be a better fit in the Titans new Defense and Burks can finally play with a real QB in Buffalo. Win win everyone. 😂. What u think fellas would u like a deal like this? Elam has more upside than Burks. Rarely ever do these retread WR's projects turn out to be good. Burks has been unimpressive on a team that was desperate for WR help, and even with Hopkins out there this year he still was underwhelming. Elam has 2 INT's in 3 playoff games. He was hurt this year and hard to get a real read on him. And I trust McD and this staff to develop our CB more than a WR who has been a disappointment. Plus, both of our starting CB's are coming off major injury and one of them (Tre) has question marks if he will be a cap casualty and may not even be on the roster. What people don't seem to realize, we are more desperate at CB than we are at WR right now where we still have Diggs and Shakir to build off of as we head into a WR rich draft. Much rather have McD coaching up a CB than a bust WR. Much rather draft WR's in a WR rich draft than have to find more CB's who may have to start as rookies. So hard pass for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I still think Burks has some talent. I wouldn't give up anything major for him, but this is swapping under performing bad fit first rounders. I'm not sure they are losing anything in it either. Ok...but consider these factors: Who do you want McD coaching up, as in what are his strenghts? A CB or a bust WR? Obviously a CB. What position is in worse shape: CB or WR? I would easily argue CB is in worse shape heading into the offseason, really the whole secondary. Both starting corners coming off major injuries, and one of them (Tre) is a potential cap casualty and now has 2 major injuries in 3 years if he does stay. And one safety is gone and the other is not a lock to be back either. WR room still has Diggs and Shakir to build off of heading into a WR rich draft. What position is richer and deeper in this draft WR or CB? I think the consensus is WR. If we trade Elam in a season where we may start the year off without both starting corners from last year, not to mention missing at least one starting safety in our secondary, possibly two, then we will be looking at holes in at least 3 of our starting secondary positions as it is. Our secondary is in worse shape than our WR room today which makes Elam have more potential value for this team than Burks does right now. If we trade Elam, it needs to be for a draft pick we can use so we have more assets in the draft find another corner, not for a retreat WR when they have a better chance finding a better WR in the draft than they do in trading for Burks. Keep Elam, draft a WR early, take a 2nd WR sometime during the draft, and honestly you still need to address corner even with Elam in either FA/Draft along with probably 2 safeties. Or move Elam for a decent draft pick for more ammo to find DB in the draft...but Elam for Burks for me just doesn't make a lot of sense given the WR class we have this year. If it was a bad WR class, then I would be a little more for it. Edited February 13 by Alphadawg7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: If they aren’t going to play Elam, I’d do it THIS. ✔️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Elam for Cortland Sutton. Who could supposedly be moved for a mid round pick wait, what 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 37 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Ok...but consider these factors: Who do you want McD coaching up, as in what are his strenghts? A CB or a bust WR? Obviously a CB. What position is in worse shape: CB or WR? I would easily argue CB is in worse shape heading into the offseason, really the whole secondary. Both starting corners coming off major injuries, and one of them (Tre) is a potential cap casualty and now has 2 major injuries in 3 years if he does stay. And one safety is gone and the other is not a lock to be back either. WR room still has Diggs and Shakir to build off of heading into a WR rich draft. What position is richer and deeper in this draft WR or CB? I think the consensus is WR. If we trade Elam in a season where we may start the year off without both starting corners from last year, not to mention missing at least one starting safety in our secondary, possibly two, then we will be looking at holes in at least 3 of our starting secondary positions as it is. Our secondary is in worse shape than our WR room today which makes Elam have more potential value for this team than Burks does right now. If we trade Elam, it needs to be for a draft pick we can use so we have more assets in the draft find another corner, not for a retreat WR when they have a better chance finding a better WR in the draft than they do in trading for Burks. Keep Elam, draft a WR early, take a 2nd WR sometime during the draft, and honestly you still need to address corner even with Elam in either FA/Draft along with probably 2 safeties. Or move Elam for a decent draft pick for more ammo to find DB in the draft...but Elam for Burks for me just doesn't make a lot of sense given the WR class we have this year. If it was a bad WR class, then I would be a little more for it. I wasn't saying do it. But most hypotehtical trades on this board make zero sense. This one does. Two first rounders who after two years are stuck in the bench and bad scheme fits. That is the kind of swap you could see happening. Not the usual omes floated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I think Elam has shown the ability to step up on game day when called upon. I like him as insurance and competition to Bedford. No need to move on imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I’d make that trade. Don’t think Tennessee would. But I would also try Elam out at Safety. He could fill Hyde’s spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: With a new DB’s coach I see it as very likely Elam stays here….but for the sake of the thread Elam for Cortland Sutton. Who could supposedly be moved for a mid round pick that would be a trade I’d be very interested in Sutton has the ability to be a dominant player with an elite QB IMO he had 10 TDs on 90 targets playing with Russ. Imagine him with Josh This is what I mean @Alphadawg7 when I say it is at least a good hypothetical compared to others.... the idea that Elam has equal trade value to Sutton is nonsensical. At least Elam for Burks makes some sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 12 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I was looking around at depth charts of different teams for possible Beane type deal and came across Treylon Burks Wr from the Tennessee he's been underwhelming since being drafted by the Titans and now they have a new regime in place . The Titans have a desperate need for corner help and we have a big need for Wrs . The Bills should make an offer there bust for ours 😂 maybe Elam will be a better fit in the Titans new Defense and Burks can finally play with a real QB in Buffalo. Win win everyone. 😂. What u think fellas would u like a deal like this? I think your jumping the gun Elam was injured for most of last season I would much rather have Beane get another WR in the draft in the long run it will be cheaper . Plus it's not like CB is a strength of the Bills . Plus knowing our luck he would go to the Titans & the switch would come on & he would be a all pro . Given how the Bills have developed good players like Millano, Benford, and quite a few others i think they should give him a good chance while being healthy then determine how to move forward with him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 9 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I wasn't saying do it. But most hypotehtical trades on this board make zero sense. This one does. Two first rounders who after two years are stuck in the bench and bad scheme fits. That is the kind of swap you could see happening. Not the usual omes floated. Gotcha. From that perspective sure I totally agree that it makes sense from a fair compensation stand point. Just don’t think it makes sense in the reality of what the Bills situation is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 12 hours ago, T master said: I think your jumping the gun Elam was injured for most of last season I would much rather have Beane get another WR in the draft in the long run it will be cheaper . Plus it's not like CB is a strength of the Bills . Plus knowing our luck he would go to the Titans & the switch would come on & he would be a all pro . Given how the Bills have developed good players like Millano, Benford, and quite a few others i think they should give him a good chance while being healthy then determine how to move forward with him . But he was healthy at the end of the yr and the Bills started a gimpy Douglas over Elam. What does that tell u about Elam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 5 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: But he was healthy at the end of the yr and the Bills started a gimpy Douglas over Elam. What does that tell u about Elam? Um let me see . The key phrase in your reply was at the end of the year and he hadn't played AT ALL most of the season . Could it be that he wasn't in full game shape as of yet due to coming back from hs injury & McD wanted to see how at game speed he would handle it, could he have been on a pitch count as they say, or was he used in certain packages & seeing that Douglas has been playing in the system ever since he got here & has been playing at a high level ? Your choice . I don't think any coach worth their salt would start a player coming off IR that has been on it for most of the season to replace a player like Douglas but then that might just be me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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