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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

I think Diggs is getting the crap beaten out of him because by the middle of the season it's clear that the Bills offense is primarily Diggs and Josh Allen.

Yea, he gets slammed like a rag doll which is intentional.  I think he’s got bruised ribs, ankles and feelings. 

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1 hour ago, Coldfronts said:

Every 2nd half and 2nd half of the season every year except 2020 because I'm not buying this guy's reasons?

 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2024/1/24/24048105/stefon-diggs-and-the-second-half-of-the-season-what-is-happening-buffalo-bills-offense

I think he pals around with David Copperfield in the off season.

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1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

A lot of people will defend Diggs. I can’t find much to defend him on. Disappeared the second half of the season, takes himself out of the game way too much, drops passes, never fights for yardage. Not exactly many superstar qualities left. 

 

Many of the times he took himself out the Bills did plays where team was running or were having WRs block which is not a strength of his.

There were some comments in media about this being a "tell" of Bills offense.  

Jake Kumerow was a big part of that blocking until 2020 before he went on IR and Gabe Davis worked on his physicality on offseason to do this role.

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Had an actual conversation about this at work. Someone thought Diggs was purposely having a down season to trick KC into letting their guard down. You can't make this stuff up. It can't be a player hitting his peak 2 years ago and is now well on the decline, it's actually more in line with a conspiracy theory. 

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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

I think Diggs is getting the crap beaten out of him because by the middle of the season it's clear that the Bills offense is primarily Diggs and Josh Allen.

no 100-yard games since WEEK 6! 

 

Dunno whats wrong with the guy but he is currently wayyyy over paid for what he has done in the last two playoff games. This is the time he is supposed to shine.

 

Perhaps he wants out of Buffalo and wants to play with his brother in Dallas?

 

In my view, the Bills need a new #1 WR.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

no 100-yard games since WEEK 6! 

 

Dunno whats wrong with the guy but he is currently wayyyy over paid for what he has done in the last two playoff games. This is the time he is supposed to shine.

 

Perhaps he wants out of Buffalo and wants to play with his brother in Dallas?

 

In my view, the Bills need a new #1 WR.

 

 

Take a look at his overall stats in the playoffs.  Our #1 WR pulls the Houdini act almost every time.  Like I heard past #1 wrs say in the Media, any decent #1 makes that catch.

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1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

A lot of people will defend Diggs. I can’t find much to defend him on. Disappeared the second half of the season, takes himself out of the game way too much, drops passes, never fights for yardage. Not exactly many superstar qualities left. 

 

I think he is playing injured again. In 2021 he played the last half of the season with a torn Oblique muscle. Oblique muscles are attached to the bottom of the rib cage. They are the ones we sue to twist and turn our body at the waist. When one is injured you usually can go about life mostly normal. That is until you twist or turn the wrong way. THEN - very painful, like a broken rib type painful for a few minutes.

 

That sort of situation would explain why he avoided contact whenever possible.

 

https://bangedupbills.com/2024/01/19/digging-into-stefon-diggss-mystery-injury/#:~:text=Previous Oblique Injury,Dolphins during the 2020 season.

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1 hour ago, PBF81 said:

 

Doesn't anyone find it suspicious that before Brady took over Diggs had 73 catches for 868 Yards, 7 TDs, and perhaps most tellingly, 11.9 YPR, in 10 games, but after Brady took over, in a similar 9 games, had 44 catches for 388 Yards, 1 TD, and 8.8 YPR?  or 3 YPR fewer?  

People have wanted to blame Brady in the past. Diggs slide started two weeks before that. 

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9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

People have wanted to blame Brady in the past. Diggs slide started two weeks before that. 

 

He caught 6 balls for 86 yards and a TD two weeks prior, for 14.3 YPR, 5.5 YPR greater than his average under Brady.  

 

The week prior, with Dorsey already taking heat, who knows how impacting his play-calling, Diggs still led the WRs and Allen only completed 15 passes.  Diggs still average 11.3 YPR, more than all but two games under Brady, and only marginally less in those two games.  

 

So that's not a true statement.  

 

When Brady took over, that's when we saw his routes turn into short OTMs, short outs, and other nonsense more suited to slot WRs or guys out of the backfield. 

 

At the end of the day we're hardly dealing with premier OCs here.  That's on McD.  

 

We'll figure it out.  I get the impression that Allen doesn't care, because he has a fairly care-free life.  He's disappointed in the season, but he also seems quite content to get away from football and go on his annual golfing and travel spree.  Great for him, really.  Quite frankly little if any of this is his fault.  I'm sure he needs to get away from this insanity just as much as many fans do now too.  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

He caught 6 balls for 86 yards and a TD two weeks prior, for 14.3 YPR, 5.5 YPR greater than his average under Brady.  

 

The week prior, with Dorsey already taking heat, who knows how impacting his play-calling, Diggs still led the WRs and Allen only completed 15 passes.  Diggs still average 11.3 YPR, more than all but two games under Brady, and only marginally less in those two games.  

 

So that's not a true statement.  

 

When Brady took over, that's when we saw his routes turn into short OTMs, short outs, and other nonsense more suited to slot WRs or guys out of the backfield. 

 

At the end of the day we're hardly dealing with premier OCs here.  That's on McD.  

 

We'll figure it out.  I get the impression that Allen doesn't care, because he has a fairly care-free life.  He's disappointed in the season, but he also seems quite content to get away from football and go on his annual golfing and travel spree.  Great for him, really.  Quite frankly little if any of this is his fault.  I'm sure he needs to get away from this insanity just as much as many fans do now too.  

 

 


 

im not going to look it up again but cover 1 did a thing showing Diggs fall off. It started before Brady. 
 

in any case I’m not going to blame his fall off on Brady. Maybe part of it but you could see on the field it wasnt just offensive system with him. Some of his routes were lazy af and not crisp. His hands have been a problem and that’s not OC.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I remember hearing McDermott talk about preserving him or something. You wonder if this is planned. 

Just spitballin but it occurred to me that maybe Brady wanted to diversify the passing offence and have it less Diggs centric, given that he was also often double covered. Without questioning Diggs’ competitive instincts maybe that was something he just had trouble adjusting to.

I did get flamed for that opinion though.

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19 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:


 

im not going to look it up again but cover 1 did a thing showing Diggs fall off. It started before Brady. 
 

in any case I’m not going to blame his fall off on Brady. Maybe part of it but you could see on the field it wasnt just offensive system with him. Some of his routes were lazy af and not crisp. His hands have been a problem and that’s not OC.

 

Would love to see that because the stats I just put up don't lie.  

 

There's a huge difference between 14.5 YPR and 8.8, much more between 7 and 1 TDs.  

 

If you have the link I'd love to see it.  I'm pretty sure it's quite easily debunkable.  

 

 

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Personally I think it's just scheme. None of our receivers had a big year by nfl standards. I think whoever is our oc next year is gonna wipe the slate clean. We've been playing Dorseys system for 2 seasons. I think it got figured out (statistically we were good last year) but I don't think there was enough adjustments made on the offense this season, and probably partly why Dorsey was fired 

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I'm giving it a month or so to see if it's announced he had some off season surgery, then will decide how to explain.

 

Admittedly that article paints it as a trend, but don't recall seeing it as bad or as long in past years as this one.

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5 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Would love to see that because the stats I just put up don't lie.  

 

There's a huge difference between 14.5 YPR and 8.8, much more between 7 and 1 TDs.  

 

If you have the link I'd love to see it.  I'm pretty sure it's quite easily debunkable.  

 

 


well I’m at drs now discussing surgery so it’s gonna be a while. 

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Buffalo Bills last 10 games: 

 

Khalil Shakir - 38 targets 462 yards 

Stefon Diggs - 80 targets 422 yards

 

Gabe Davis gets most of the criticism on this board, but if we’re comparing contracts, Diggs is under-performing on a level I’ve never seen from a supposed top 5 WR who is not coming off any serious injuries. He also has a top 3 QB throwing to him. Shakir on the other hand is taking every opportunity he’s given and made some huge catches this post-season. Diggs has largely disappeared and is one the main reasons we lost against KC. We’ve won this year in spite of him, not b/c of him. I love what he’s done in re-establishing a top offense in Buffalo and greatly contributing to Allen’s development, but he’s hit a brick wall. His contract makes things really hard, but if we can unload him for anything then Beane needs to pull the trigger. This whole WR room needs to be destroyed & rebuilt. The money towards Von Miller and Diggs is killing the Bills. 

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