WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 50 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: No to Brady. The guy showed again yesterday, he can't make 2nd half adjustments. Get someone in here with something other than what we have been doing and get Josh some damn weapons already. Did we watch the same game? yes, they had two 3 and outs. But the offense was very much clicking going into the 2 minute warning. After that, it was Allen gunning it to Shakir for a killshot rather than taking the easy check down to Diggs. Allen rolling right and not seeing the open guys (they highlighted it in the broadcast) and then a missed FG. I can't blame Brady for that, especially after creaming the Chiefs on TOP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Mark Vader said: What do the Bills do with Tre'Davious White? Has to be let go with his cap hit. Idk how it works with injury maybe injury settlement. But you can’t keep him at that number with his injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: What do the Bills do with Tre'Davious White? Ask him to take a pay cut or actually cut him. We need a youth movement on defense, not much unlike the chiefs did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Not at the table Karlos said: Has to be let go with his cap hit. Idk how it works with injury maybe injury settlement. But you can’t keep him at that number with his injuries. Depending on how his medicals look, I'd offer him something like a 3yr/$18M with $10M guaranteed. Might be worth bringing him back as a $6M guy who can be easily cut. Definitely not at his current $16M price tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: What do the Bills do with Tre'Davious White? Probably depends on his recovery. If he will be good to go for TC, they likely experiment with our top 3 CBs and some holes at safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Probably depends on his recovery. If he will be good to go for TC, they likely experiment with our top 3 CBs and some holes at safety. He cant come back at his current contract tho. No matter how well he recovers, he simply wont be worth anywhere near $16M. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: What do the Bills do with Tre'Davious White? That's a real question that doesn't have a great answer. Now, Aaron Rodgers and his sports doctors will disagree with me but from my knowledge around the league Achillies is a long painful rehab to come back from. Rodgers at least has the excuse that he can be a statue in the pocket and sling it, Tre needs some measure of speed. Even if Tre is back and ready Week 1 (which sounds like a very generous timeline) I doubt he would ever have the same speed which means you are paying CB1 money for another Douglas or Benford (or worse play). Complicating matters is that as he took an in game injury he can't be cut outright. He would need to reach an injury settlement That means that out the $16.5 M cap hit, $10M is dead money already guaranteed. Injury settlements prorate the cost of expected missing weeks, so how much of $6.5 is worth a hole on the roster. My wild card idea (which might be crazy) would be sliding him over to safety. His skill were never elite speed, it was technique and recognition. He'd never be a thumping S, but as a center fielder? maybe. IDK. No option is great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The Bills didn’t have one play over 20 yards, correct? I know on TV that comparison between teams was shown a few times. That was a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Did we watch the same game? yes, they had two 3 and outs. But the offense was very much clicking going into the 2 minute warning. After that, it was Allen gunning it to Shakir for a killshot rather than taking the easy check down to Diggs. Allen rolling right and not seeing the open guys (they highlighted it in the broadcast) and then a missed FG. I can't blame Brady for that, especially after creaming the Chiefs on TOP. The defense was a skeleton crew. I'm sure the gameplan was to keep it within a score and bleed the clock on offense from the opening kickoff. When KC's defense adjusted and it became tough sledding on the ground they had to loosen it up by taking shots downfield. I have no complaints about the offensive gameplan yesterday. Improbable as it was to succeed against the Chiefs with the defense as undermanned as it was, it almost worked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Who drafted those WR's or brought them in as FA's? At some point Beane has to be held accountable. All the draft pics on the DL, outside of Oliver, anyone even remotely a guy the other teams must game plan for? No. And clear 40+ million off the cap, AND find a legit #2 WR AND hopefully draft well. I'm not quite worried about the cap to be honest. Restructure Diggs ~ 12M Extend Allen (he deserves a much higher salary anyways) or Restructure him ~ 18.8M Restructure Von ~13M You're already up to 43M Extend Dion Dawkins 4 years ~ 10M Extend or Release White ~ 6M Extend Douglas 2 years ~ 4M Bills don't have expensive FAs to re-sign. Davis will walk, Hyde will retire, Poyer will retire (earn more cap savings there). Probably DQ will be retained ($4M). The only one I have a question about is AJE, who I love as a 3rd DE behind GR and Von (who looked decent yesterday). Beane won't be much of a player in the FA market this year, but I do think there's space to add an impact player. For example Budda Baker if negotiations fall through with AZ though I'm not sure Beane would ever sink 14M into a FS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 25 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Could you imagine the stats if he could actually make 2nd half adjustments? What adjustments were you thinking about going into the second half? I’d have to watch the game again to understand what Brady did or didn’t do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Kind of shocked Morse wants to come back. I'm fine with him for one more year. Hyde needs to retire Gabe needs to sign elsewhere and net us a comp pick- maybe 5th round? White needs a pay cut or just cut Poyer I bring back for one more year If Morse is back, then Bates needs to take a pay cut or just cut him. They should draft a center to develop in the mid rounds even if Morse returns Cut or let walk in no order: Floyd Phillips Epenesa Settle Murray Sherfield and Hardy Gilliam Matakevich Hamlin Martin Lewis Worth bringing back : Jones Dodson Neal Rapp Isabella Edwards Van Demark and Johnson Douglas should get an extension especially if they cut White. Am I missing anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 19 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: What do the Bills do with Tre'Davious White? Rehab him and play him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 7 minutes ago, appoo said: I'm not quite worried about the cap to be honest. Restructure Diggs ~ 12M Extend Allen (he deserves a much higher salary anyways) or Restructure him ~ 18.8M Restructure Von ~13M You're already up to 43M How long do you want to be pushing Diggs and Vons guaranteed money down the road via restructuring? I would like to find a way to move on after 2024 if they don’t show any improvement … not sure that will happen if they get restructured again this off season.. Edited January 22 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, transient said: The defense was a skeleton crew. I'm sure the gameplan was to keep it within a score and bleed the clock on offense from the opening kickoff. When KC's defense adjusted and it became tough sledding on the ground they had to loosen it up by taking shots downfield. I have no complaints about the offensive gameplan yesterday. Improbable as it was to succeed against the Chiefs with the defense as undermanned as it was, it almost worked. Pretty much. With the defense so damaged, and having no much difficulty stopping the Chiefs from getting chunk plays, Brady's plan (which worked up into the 3rd quarter) was to bully the Chiefs D-line and do as much TOP as possible to keep Mahomes off the field and give as much rest as possible. And when the Chiefs moved to run blitzes, Kincaid was able to work blitz beaters. Thus my consternation at suddenly deciding to go for high speed kill shot within 2 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 44 minutes ago, appoo said: I don't think you understand A) how the chiefs defended Allen, and B) the deficiencies of the Bills WR corps in this moment in time Richard Sherman was on undisputed and was talking complete nonsense because Allen had zero plays of 20+ yards. He said that Brock Purdy had a better game, which is simply a horrible take. I thought this guy was smart, but he clearly didn't realize that the KC defense is top of the league in pass D and we wanted to manage the clock and keep the D off the field. The deep shots that were dropped were brought up, but he dismissed them because they weren't caught. I tuned out after that because it was just bad analysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmd07 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 DIggs is due 24M? What are our options? I never understood if a player has any motivation to take a pay cut. What if he says no? What are our options. I always heard NFL contracts were always a series of 1 year contracts....Id like him closer to WR average maybe 10-15M? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: How long do you want to be pushing Diggs and Vons guaranteed money down the road via restructuring? I would like to find a way to move on after 2024 if they don’t show any improvement … not sure that will happen if they get restructured again this off season.. With Diggs you're adding 12M over the next two years, and with Von about 13M over the next 3 years. Bills lose some deadcap with that, pushing Von to losing ~3M if they cut him after next season, and Diggs you won't be able to cut until 2026 without burning too much deadcap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, appoo said: Restructure Diggs ~ 12M If Beane does this, someone in the front office needs to slap him. Whether its age or something else, Diggs is slowing down. Clearly. Noticeably. Restructuring $12M from the 2024 season would make his cap hits over $30 Million the next two years. He would be uncuttable. Untradeable. Un-anythingable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 55 minutes ago, appoo said: I don't think you understand A) how the chiefs defended Allen, and B) the deficiencies of the Bills WR corps in this moment in time I don't care how they defended him. When you have a top QB, you don't abandon a downfield passing attack just because your opponent is attempting to stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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