whorlnut Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 After the eagles game, many (including myself) were satisfied enough to declare Brady the OC next year if McD stays. I think after what we saw under Dorsey, any semblance of an nfl offense was a welcome sight so we may have jumped the gun in what Brady was capable of. Now? Well…this offense is a mess. Allen and the receivers are way off…Diggs is a non factor since Brady took over…we are running Murray up the guy on third and 1 instead of letting our hulking qb dive over the top to move the chains, etc. Could Joe Brady be coaching for his job today this week? I’m not saying he won’t be the guy next year either way, but the job might come open if we lose and miss the playoffs. We have way too much in a franchise qb to be wasting him with ineffective coaching. I’d rather open up the HC position in favor of an offensive mind, but we all know that’s not likely to happen. What say you? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Considering the Bills have always been effective on offense against Miami no matter the year or coordinator, and considering Miami does not have Jaelen Phillips or Bradley Chubb, I would probably agree with this. If the Bills offense is sputtering against Miami, and especially if we end up losing, I can’t imagine Brady is back next season as OC. I personally think our offense will come to play though. The thing is too, a lot of this falls on Josh Allen and his receivers. There is a combination of bad drops by receivers and bad misses by Allen lately, and that can’t happen on Sunday night. Especially in a game where we may HAVE to get off to a fast start like the last time we faced Miami. that is where I am mostly concerned. This offense is back to getting off to slow starts which cannot happen this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 At some point the players have to execute. JA with multiple in accurate throws, several drops, poor OL play. Not all on the OC with either guy. I would be surprised if Brady is not back win or lose. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, BobBelcher said: Considering the Bills have always been effective on offense against Miami no matter the year or coordinator, and considering Miami does not have Jaelen Phillips or Bradley Chubb, I would probably agree with this. If the Bills offense is sputtering against Miami, and especially if we end up losing, I can’t imagine Brady is back next season as OC. I personally think our offense will come to play though. The thing is too, a lot of this falls on Josh Allen and his receivers. There is a combination of bad drops by receivers and bad misses by Allen lately, and that can’t happen on Sunday night. Especially in a game where we may HAVE to get off to a fast start like the last time we faced Miami. that is where I am mostly concerned. This offense is back to getting off to slow starts which cannot happen this week. But here’s the argument…Allen was having a really good statistical year with Dorsey and Diggs was on fire. Allen may have had some turnovers, but his completion % was tops in the league. Now it looks like he is back to rookie year Josh. The common denominator seems to be the ocs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I would take a look at bienemy if he's let go by the commanders or frank Reich as OC 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Yes … he is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 With millions of dollars on the line, every coach and player is playing for their job each and every week. Just imagine, millions to play a game. How serious would you take each and every one? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, whorlnut said: After the eagles game, many (including myself) were satisfied enough to declare Brady the OC next year if McD stays. I think after what we saw under Dorsey, any semblance of an nfl offense was a welcome sight so we may have jumped the gun in what Brady was capable of. Now? Well…this offense is a mess. Allen and the receivers are way off…Diggs is a non factor since Brady took over…we are running Murray up the guy on third and 1 instead of letting our hulking qb dive over the top to move the chains, etc. Could Joe Brady be coaching for his job today this week? I’m not saying he won’t be the guy next year either way, but the job might come open if we lose and miss the playoffs. We have way too much in a franchise qb to be wasting him with ineffective coaching. I’d rather open up the HC position in favor of an offensive mind, but we all know that’s not likely to happen. What say you? You know that saying about wishing in one hand and crapping in the other and seeing which fills up first. Well…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Schopp brought up an interesting point yesterday on post-game. He said that this is exactly what McDermott wants. A run heavy offense that can control the clock and keep the d fresh. If this is the ultimate goal, i hate it. We had it really good with Dabol and I didn't appreciate that at the time like I should have. 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Schopp brought up an interesting point yesterday on post-game. He said that this is exactly what McDermott wants. A run heavy offense that can control the clock and keep the d fresh. If this is the ultimate goal, i hate it. We had it really good with Dabol and I didn't appreciate that at the time like I should have. Schopp just dirty that he has got Gabe and Diggs in his fantasy teams … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Schopp brought up an interesting point yesterday on post-game. He said that this is exactly what McDermott wants. A run heavy offense that can control the clock and keep the d fresh. If this is the ultimate goal, i hate it. We had it really good with Dabol and I didn't appreciate that at the time like I should have. We used to have a passing offense that struggled without a running game. At least the running game works now. I don’t buy this is what McD wants. McD wants a 21 point lead lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 At least McD is smart enough to know that you don’t go out of the Shotgun to get 1 yard 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 It was definitely a rash judgement to have annointed him our next OC. It always takes a bunch of games for a steady-state of play to emerge, during that time opposing coaches and coordinators contribute to defining that. Unfortunately for McD, that's going to impact him as well, perhaps not in immediate job security, but at minimum in terms of future expectations. We'll see. First things first, gotta beat Miami. Hoping that Tennessee beats the Jags with their division and playoffs on the line isn't wise. Whether Pittsburgh with Rudolph can beat the Ravens' second teamers remains to be seen, as it even does that they don't play Jackson. Then of course if we do make the playoffs, if we get ousted by a worse team, which is pretty much every team in the AFC with the possible exception of Baltimore, then that will factor in as well. 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: At least McD is smart enough to know that you don’t go out of the Shotgun to get 1 yard Is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 25 minutes ago, whorlnut said: After the eagles game, many (including myself) were satisfied enough to declare Brady the OC next year if McD stays. I think after what we saw under Dorsey, any semblance of an nfl offense was a welcome sight so we may have jumped the gun in what Brady was capable of. Now? Well…this offense is a mess. Allen and the receivers are way off…Diggs is a non factor since Brady took over…we are running Murray up the guy on third and 1 instead of letting our hulking qb dive over the top to move the chains, etc. Could Joe Brady be coaching for his job today this week? I’m not saying he won’t be the guy next year either way, but the job might come open if we lose and miss the playoffs. We have way too much in a franchise qb to be wasting him with ineffective coaching. I’d rather open up the HC position in favor of an offensive mind, but we all know that’s not likely to happen. What say you? Brady has always been coaching for his job. He's interim, its not like he's assured the spot for next year. He knows he has to produce every week. 8 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Schopp brought up an interesting point yesterday on post-game. He said that this is exactly what McDermott wants. A run heavy offense that can control the clock and keep the d fresh. If this is the ultimate goal, i hate it. We had it really good with Dabol and I didn't appreciate that at the time like I should have. I can say with confidence that this is NOT exactly what McDermott wants. I'm sure he would like a run-heavy offense like we saw against Dallas, but not what we've seen the last couple of weeks. If he wants a run-heavy offense, it's to take the pressure off of Allen and allow him to use play action better and to be more productive with the receivers when he does throw. We're not seeing that, at least not yet. I can't imagine this is what McDermott wants...he wants this, but with a better, more opportunistic passing game. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 minutes ago, FireChans said: We used to have a passing offense that struggled without a running game. At least the running game works now. A lot of that is narrative based upon aggregate stats which are skewed by that Dallas game. Cook's our primary ball carrier and apart from the Dallas game, he's averaged an incredibly pedestrian 3.7 YPC otherwise in five games under Brady. He has no rushing TDs in any of those games. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 If the offense looks good in the playoffs, keep Brady. If we fall short with the offense still looking average, maybe it’s time for a fresh prospective. He’s done a lot of good things, but this offense struggles mightily without Diggs being elite every game. The Dallas game where Cook went crazy was the exception with someone unexpected stepping up. I don’t think you can replace the elite version of Diggs, but I’m not fully satisfied with how Brady makes use of the roster. I have yet to see Brady or Dorsey use Shakir and Kincaid the way they should be utilized. Allen is elite, we need to put him and his teammates in better positions to succeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I hope so. He needs to compete for that role. He’s 34 with a fairly thin resume. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 He's been coaching for the job since he became interim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, PBF81 said: A lot of that is narrative based upon aggregate stats which are skewed by that Dallas game. Cook's our primary ball carrier and apart from the Dallas game, he's averaged an incredibly pedestrian 3.7 YPC otherwise in five games under Brady. He has no rushing TDs in any of those games. Not really. James Cook has had one game with less than 16 carries since Brady took over. He had 5 such games under Dorsey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: He's been coaching for the job since he became interim. Not really my point but I get what you’re saying. Many level headed folks (including Joe Marino) were saying just make him the OC going into next year and move on. They were happy to see the offensive improvements in the run game and Allen looked really good against the eagles. The run game continues to look decent, but the qb and receivers are totally off. Diggs is a non factor. This team goes as Josh Allen goes…I think we can all agree with that. It just hasn’t been effective for a month now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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