MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 McDermott claimed it was him and him alone. But I wonder if that's the truth. Your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14774 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 I think it was all McClappy, trying to save his own behind. 2 19 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) Tough to say. He was backing Dorsey far more than he backed Peterman despite having become all but a nation-wide laughing stock back then. McD's very stubborn. It's difficult to not strongly consider that he got a call from Pegula to get this thing under control in the media. ... which would seem to be Pegula's top concern. At the same time, those that seem to think that McD's toast after the season, and hoping so, may be disappointed. Edited November 15, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) Pegula signed off on it. I wonder if McDermott ever wanted Dorsey. I remember some were nervous when they didn’t immediately hire Dorsey. Fans and media were afraid they’d mess up and let Dorsey go somewhere else. Edited November 15, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Honestly, the fans/media. McDermott has been fielding questions from Tim Graham and others since the week after Miami about Dorsey and if he would lose playcalling duties. This stoked the fans fire and with the offense struggling, the drum beat grew louder. It finally came to a head yesterday. And it's almost hysterical how many fans are. Almost everyone wanted to see Dorsey fired. Then when he gets fired a certain percentage turn it into "he fired him as a scape goat and to save his own arse". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Honestly, the fans/media. McDermott has been fielding questions from Tim Graham and others since the week after Miami about Dorsey and if he would lose playcalling duties. This stoked the fans fire and with the offense struggling, the drum beat grew louder. It finally came to a head yesterday. And it's almost hysterical how many fans are. Almost everyone wanted to see Dorsey fired. Then when he gets fired a certain percentage turn it into "he fired him as a scape goat and to save his own arse". Fans would fire someone after every loss if they could. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Fans would fire someone after every loss if they could. Agreed. Totally reactionary. This place would fire or cut someone every week. On the question, it is a good one. We know that the Pegulas were integral in the last OC change we made in-season when they fired Greg Roman two weeks into 2016 - after he had taken the offense from 26th to 13th in his one year in charge. They met with players and then Rex and the upshot was Roman was out. I don't rule out that Terry involved himself again but I suspect ultimately McDermott with counsel from Beane is the right answer. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Fans would fire someone after every loss if they could. I always like to get ahead the problem so my position is fire them before the game just in case there is a loss 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Actually, I was. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Agreed. Totally reactionary. This place would fire or cut someone every week. On the question, it is a good one. We know that the Pegulas were integral in the last OC change we made in-season when they fired Greg Roman two weeks into 2016 - after he had taken the offense from 26th to 13th in his one year in charge. They met with players and then Rex and the upshot was Roman was out. I don't rule out that Terry involved himself again but I suspect ultimately McDermott with counsel from Beane is the right answer. McDermott has no reason to lie about this. He clearly made the decision himself. Needed an immediate distraction from the 12 men on the field coaching mistake, after two time outs were taken that could have been used to make sure things were organized for the obvious play. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 11 hours ago, boyst said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Honestly, the fans/media. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Ownership. Fans are not happy, which leads to less revenue. Tickets sales and merchandise. Tickets are good now. Issue could be future sales for a new stadium and the coveted PSL’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 I actually think it stems from last year in the divisional round. Diggs storming out then and the stuff that happened at the beginning of the year makes me think the players didn't believe in the offensive game plan. Josh looking lost on the sideline. The players have no confidence and that's a reflection of coaching. Then they run the same mesh play over and over again that has been resulted in probably half of Allen's INTs when all they needed to do was run the ball. Also having a players only meeting for the offense doesn't show a lot of faith in what they are being told to do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, entropyrules said: I always like to get ahead the problem so my position is fire them before the game just in case there is a loss Imagine how exciting it would be if fans voted off one coach or player every week? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Honestly, the fans/media. McDermott has been fielding questions from Tim Graham and others since the week after Miami about Dorsey and if he would lose playcalling duties. This stoked the fans fire and with the offense struggling, the drum beat grew louder. It finally came to a head yesterday. And it's almost hysterical how many fans are. Almost everyone wanted to see Dorsey fired. Then when he gets fired a certain percentage turn it into "he fired him as a scape goat and to save his own arse". But Marv Levy said "if you start listening to the fans soon you'll be sitting among them." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Listening to Sean McDermott presser after the game. I knew Dorsey was toast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Imagine how exciting it would be if fans voted off one coach or player every week? Don't give them any ideas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Imagine how exciting it would be if fans voted off one coach or player every week? It worked pretty well for a long running TV reality series 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, 14774 said: I think it was all McClappy, trying to save his own behind. Not a great move by McD (to save his a$$), he let the sacrificial lamb go too early. There’s a high likelihood we may not win a game here on out. Who does he blame / fire @ year end… Brady? McD is done or should be, barring some miracle over the next 7. Edited November 15, 2023 by PayDaBill$ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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