The Cook "doghouse"

[Success]

I didn't get it.

 

Obviously, Cook had kind of a rough night.  3 fumbles - one which set the tone for the game, one that didn't seem to be his fault, and one that fortuitously bounced back into his hands for a long gain.

 

But he also had a pretty great night, and was one of the most impactful players on the field.  He led the last TD drive entirely on his own until the actual TD play.

 

Sitting him for a series makes sense - it's what a lot of coaches do. But what McD did made little sense.  He kept Cook out for too long, and it really hurt our offense.

 

[Process]

First fumble in what, 14 months?

 

Give me a break.

[dorquemada]

as it turns out, his 1st fumble did set the tone for the game, and our QB picked up on it

 

Cook is our best RB but what do you do as a coach when your team isn't responding to coaching?

[MJS]

It HELPED the offense. Cook was pissed and went out and balled after.

 

Davis should have been benched after that dropped pass too.

 

The players need to be held accountable just as much as coaches. They are making too many bone-headed mistakes out there. That is what has been killing most of the drives.

[NoSaint]

1 minute ago, Process said:

First fumble in what, 14 months?

 

Give me a break.

yea, unless something was going on in practice all week that cook blew off… it made zero sense to bench him for essentially a quarter over an at that point isolated fumble. 

Just now, MJS said:

It HELPED the offense. Cook was pissed and went out and balled after.

 

Davis should have been benched after that dropped pass too.

 

The players need to be held accountable just as much as coaches. They are making too many bone-headed mistakes out there. That is what has been killing most of the drives.

cook was already running hard and fumbled because he was fighting. I don’t think he’s had any issue with loafing.

[Mark Vader]

Just now, MJS said:

It HELPED the offense. Cook was pissed and went out and balled after.

 

Davis should have been benched after that dropped pass too.

 

The players need to be held accountable just as much as coaches. They are making too many bone-headed mistakes out there. That is what has been killing most of the drives.

Perhaps it did help, although Cook was on the sidelines a lot longer than he should have been.

[BillsFooteball]

Important game, want to set the tone and very first play fumble. It’s unfortunate but I get benching for one series and that’s it. Also would not be passing to Murray. 
All for accountability but issue is what about next drive with davis? Bills moving broncos territory and Davis drop and interception. Cost the team points. Next offensive series davis was out there..

[Process]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

It HELPED the offense. Cook was pissed and went out and balled after.

 

Davis should have been benched after that dropped pass too.

 

The players need to be held accountable just as much as coaches. They are making too many bone-headed mistakes out there. That is what has been killing most of the drives.

They held him out 3 series. Interception, punt, punt. First drive he comes back in we score a TD. 

 

You don't take your best RB out of the game for THREE SERIES because of one fumble in 14 months. 

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, Success said:

I didn't get it.

 

Obviously, Cook had kind of a rough night.  3 fumbles - one which set the tone for the game, one that didn't seem to be his fault, and one that fortuitously bounced back into his hands for a long gain.

 

But he also had a pretty great night, and was one of the most impactful players on the field.  He led the last TD drive entirely on his own until the actual TD play.

 

Sitting him for a series makes sense - it's what a lot of coaches do. But what McD did made little sense.  He kept Cook out for too long, and it really hurt our offense.

 

 

Did it?  Murray rumbled for big gains while he was out.  Murray also averaged 7.6 YPC last night too...I don't agree with that.

[Chaos]

One of the commentators mentioned that Cook was held out because he had lost his composure.  Not as punishment. And was re-inserted when he regained his composure.    If true that seems like a legit reason to hold him out.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

I wonder if Cook wants to invest in a fast food joint, serving Sahlen's hot dogs.  We could clean up, naming it after this thread. 😁

[phypon]

What McD should have done was said "don't do that again".  Way to mind F your players.  But, that's McD's style, keep 'em scared, be in control of everything.  F'ing stupid.  Fumbles happen and it was a close call as to wether he was even down when the fumble occurred.  Bang bang plays happens and the ball comes out, that's football.  Wrong time in the season for McD to discipline a player.  McD is a complete tool.  Cost us a game...

[ChanticleerBillsFan]

I don’t understand how Davis wasn’t benched. His play was just as bad. The proverbial McDermott “doghouse” only applies to certain players unfortunately 

[dorquemada]

MCD is feeling the heat and knew damn well that the Bills had to play as close to mistake free football as possible.  As it turns out, this is what 'as close to mistake free football' as the Keystone Kops Buffalo Bills are capable of playing.  Queue up the yakety sax and let's watch the antics next week!

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

O.J. wasn't exactly a paragon of steady handed ball control, but he did a decent job of running the ball.

 

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/how-many-fumbles-did-o.j.-simpson-have#

[Bills aPHILLYate]

It's difficult to blame Cook because of how sparingly he is used. 

We call running plays like they are trick plays which is crazy. 

This is the 2nd rb who is being terribly underutilized for no apparent reason. 

Singletary before and now Cook...

Cook should be a feature back to balance things out. 

These OC's keep promoting less hero ball from Josh all while completely relying on him to do it all and neutering the offense as a whole.

 

 

[julian]

That benching was fireable to me when it happened, I couldn’t believe it. He’s coaching like it’s a pop Warner team.

[dorquemada]

1 minute ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said:

I don’t understand how Davis wasn’t benched. His play was just as bad. The proverbial McDermott “doghouse” only applies to certain players unfortunately 

 

Because we've ignored the WR position and Davis had that one great game 3 years ago. 

 

McD is obviously a complete hack, I'm glad that Dorkey is gone, but let's hope Beane will at least consider drafting skill players this year.  oh and someone to replace spencer brown

[Golden*Wheels]

I mean he is gone now so it doesn't matter but....why were we calling 3-4-5 runs in a row multiple times with him when he came back? Was Dorsey sticking it to McDermott?

 

Seems not a great idea to gas a guy out like that when he has already fumbled...can't remember the last time I even saw 3 runs in a row outside of ending a game.

[BADOLBILZ]

2 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

O.J. wasn't exactly a paragon of steady handed ball control, but he did a decent job of running the ball.

 

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/how-many-fumbles-did-o.j.-simpson-have#

 

 

Different era.   More violence, more fumbles.   Bigger discrepancy between good, middling and bad teams.  Always been an important stat but with talent spread more evenly around the league by ever enhanced parity measures, now turnovers make a bigger difference.    For reference that Rams/Steelers SB after the 1979 season featured the two teams that turned the ball over THE MOST that season.