hondo in seattle Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 hours ago, SirAndrew said: McD puppet is the correct answer, more Carolina connection. Just because they worked together in Carolina doesn't make Brady a puppet. I've worked for a lot of people and didn't become a puppet to any. I bet the same is true of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 hours ago, teef said: not much...not much. Yeah... this is what my Carolina buddy said. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Just because they worked together in Carolina doesn't make Brady a puppet. I've worked for a lot of people and didn't become a puppet to any. I bet the same is true of you. Joe Brady and McD never worked together in Carolina. Their first collaboration is with the Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yeah... this is what my Carolina buddy said. Guys fail as OCs in one place and succeed in another all the time. For one glaring example, see the career arc of Brian Daboll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Look at where Brady went to college and where he got his coaching start: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/BradJo0.htm. They are both William and Mary alums. That hardly qualifies as a collaborative history together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 At one point in time, a while ago, he was considered by some to be a new, hot young thing, comping out of LSU. His career kind of derailed in Carolina where he was part of a losing regime, and never really got much experience...then he ended up here. I would expect no improvement over Dorsey; they are both cut from the same cloth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Ramza86 said: I expect a worse offense. How? It's pathetic now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I think we’ll see Josh air it out, more deep stuff. But I wouldn’t be shocked to see INts continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Nextmanup said: I would expect no improvement over Dorsey; they are both cut from the same cloth. Well, maybe not improved but different would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 What is Brady's personality, is he strong/dominant? I viewed Dorsey as someone who tried to be Josh's friend which I don't think worked out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Guys fail as OCs in one place and succeed in another all the time. For one glaring example, see the career arc of Brian Daboll. It’s amazing what a good QB can do for an OC. Brady had Burrow in college having the greatest single season for a QB in college throwing the ball. Great OC at LSU. Had a pile of garbage at QB in Carolina. Bad OC in Carolina. Brady now has Allen. Let’s see what he can do with a legit NFL QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Just because they worked together in Carolina doesn't make Brady a puppet. I've worked for a lot of people and didn't become a puppet to any. I bet the same is true of you. They didn’t work together in Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: What is Brady's personality, is he strong/dominant? I viewed Dorsey as someone who tried to be Josh's friend which I don't think worked out well. I’ve spent a day with both Brady and Dorsey shortly after each was hired as QBC. Brady I’m not going to say will command your attention but he didn’t lose it like I saw with Dorsey. Brady seemed more in control of his thoughts vs Dorsey kind of being all over the place. Watched them both talk to high school players with Brady everyone was engaged and he could clearly communicate what he was trying to say. Dorsey lost each crowd pretty quick. Within a few mins the crowd was taking amongst themselves while Dorsey was still talking. I think Brady’s personality will get more players to buy in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Just because they worked together in Carolina doesn't make Brady a puppet. I've worked for a lot of people and didn't become a puppet to any. I bet the same is true of you. They didn’t work in Carolina together upon further review, but I get your point. I’m just going with the puppet suggestion because I think McD is a my way or the highway kind of guy. He doesn’t take accountability and throws people under the bus. I doubt Brady is given freedom to really control this offense. Just my opinion though. 16 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I’ve spent a day with both Brady and Dorsey shortly after each was hired as QBC. Brady I’m not going to say will command your attention but he didn’t lose it like I saw with Dorsey. Brady seemed more in control of his thoughts vs Dorsey kind of being all over the place. Watched them both talk to high school players with Brady everyone was engaged and he could clearly communicate what he was trying to say. Dorsey lost each crowd pretty quick. Within a few mins the crowd was taking amongst themselves while Dorsey was still talking. I think Brady’s personality will get more players to buy in. That’s good to hear, meaning Brady could be a potential upgrade, I just worry that McD will assert more control over the offense with his own job on the line. I’m not sure if that’s logical on my part, but I’ve gone from being a big time McD supporter, to questioning almost everything. Edited November 14, 2023 by SirAndrew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: They didn’t work together in Carolina. Thanks for the correction... Fingers moving faster than the brain. Regardless, I still don't expect Brady to be a puppet. But unless someone here intimately knows Brady's character and personality, we're all just guessing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 I’m watching week 1 ‘20-‘21 Raiders vs Panthers. Lot of under center, motion, empty, jet sweep motion, screens, play action, deep ball to McCaffrey split out wide. I literally have only watched a quarter and a half and I saw all of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 I think that just his approach in this might could show a lil bit about him, like if he is on field with the players and not in the booth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Lot of skepticism in here...and its fair skeptcism given the gravity of the situation. But, look at what a coaching shakeup did for the Raiders...2 straight wins and a completely different intensity and level of fire in the players. This offense was flat, had no identity, no consistency, no fire and hasn't been having any fun. If the change to Brady can breath some renewed life into the players and offense, bring some identity, can bring some creativity and new wrinkles...then he doesn't have to be perfect for there to be a big boost to this team and for the Bills to go on a run. And if the offense gets back to being what it should be, this team can still beat anyone in the league. But with the anemic offense of the past 6 weeks it was also capable of losing to literally any team in the league too. So lets hope Brady brings the offense back up to where it should be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Is he going to be in the booth or the sidelines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 I honestly don't know as he was forced to run Rhule's offense. Use the same concepts he did with Burrow at LSU and keep it simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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