Stupidest Challenge of All Time

[Freddie's Dead]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:57 AM, Alpo Chino said:

I agree. It was not a good time to use the challenge. It may have been a catch, but it was almost impossible to tell if it was all glove underneath the ball. The TO was worth more than the 9 yards at the time.  I WANT SOME BUTTS!

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[Dan Darragh]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:30 AM, Billsatlastin2018 said:

 

Who among us could ever,ever, ever trust ‘13 Seconds’ to close out games properly?

 

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13 seconds was the effective end of the McDermott experiment. He could have salvaged it by coming clean on what happened and owning it but now it's too late.  I'm beginning to think "13 seconds" will rival "wide right" in the pantheon of Bills pain.  At least "wide right" was in a SB.

[jlgarsh]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:30 AM, strive_for_five_guy said:

Trust the process!!!

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I'd trust a process server to call plays before Dorsey & McClown

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:30 AM, strive_for_five_guy said:

Trust the process!!!

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I'd trust a process server to call plays before Dorsey & McClown

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:30 AM, strive_for_five_guy said:

Trust the process!!!

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I'd trust a process server to call plays before Dorsey & McClown

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:30 AM, strive_for_five_guy said:

Trust the process!!!

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I'd trust a process server to call plays before Dorsey & McDermott 

[BillsShredder83]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:33 AM, buffblue said:

Risk? What was the risk? We could have had 17 timeouts and not stopped the Bengals. It was the right decision and I am on the fire McDermott train

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yeah, the risk was exactky what played out.

 

the timeout wouldnt have helped but at the time we didnt know that.....

 

you can close your eyes and speed through a red light, and not get t-boned too.  if you're in the passenger seat afterwards do you say 'good call, im glad you did that, we can save so much time the rest of the trip home!"

 

or do you look over, realize this dudes a fn idiot, and get out of the car before his stupid ass ends your life (future seasons). 

 

(spoiler, we got t-boned)

 

it was completely incompetent. Risk was losing a high value time out, reward was 11yards on what 2nd down, not even 3rd (we were in 4 down territory, so had 2 more whacks left at it)? insane

 

 

Edited November 6, 2023 by BillsShredder83

[Doc Brown]

I'm sure he has a guy in his ear that told him it was obvious so we wouldn't lose the timeout.  That guy might be fired now.

[Doc Brown]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:32 AM, Bermuda Triangle said:

His game/clock management was horrendous.

 

want to hear his explanation for sitting on a timeout at the end of the half and the absolutely smooth brained challenge 

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Yup.  Should've taken a timeout with a second left and tried a Hal Mary.  My guess is he was too heated about the intentional grounding penalty to think straight.  Inexcusable. 

[GunnerBill]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:25 AM, WEATHER DOT COM said:

A gain of 9 yards is nowhere near close to the value of a timeout.

 

The play was not obvious and should not have been challenged.

 

Whoever made that decision is a moron. 

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Agreed. I will post fuller thoughts on where culpability for this lies later on... but even if you win that challenge it is a terrible challenge. Down 2 scores inside 6 minutes to play a TO >>>>>>> 2nd and 1. 

[JoshAllin]

The challenge and going for 2, the worst calls of the day, bengals now forced and determined not to give the ball back or the'd lose with a td

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

  On 11/6/2023 at 10:03 AM, motorj said:

The challenge and going for 2, the worst calls of the day, bengals now forced and determined not to give the ball back or the'd lose with a td

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Does anyone think this Bills defense would get a stop either way ? I like the aggressiveness of going for 2 there. Interestingly enough it was an identical situation to the Bucs game last week, only the Bucs defense got a stop. 

 

I liked the challenge too. It 100% should've been overturned. 

[SCBills]

It didn't matter because our 20M per year DE couldn't set the edge on a RB who I could beat in a race... but hoo boy, if we got the ball back down 6 with 1:10 left and came up short because we ran out of time due to McDermott burning a challenge in that situation... FOR NINE YARDS... this board would be apocalyptic.  

 

He shouldn't be let off the hook just because it didn't matter. 

 

That challenge was legitimately insane. 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

  On 11/6/2023 at 9:33 AM, Doc Brown said:

I'm sure he has a guy in his ear that told him it was obvious so we wouldn't lose the timeout.  That guy might be fired now.

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Shouldn't the coach who makes probably 20-30x more than that guy in his ear realize that it is a 9-yard play and not worth the challenge regardless of what the guy in his ear is saying? 

 

I want a coach who has the awareness to not make stupid decisions like this.

 

[Bruffalo]

McDermott's worst quality as a coach is his gameday management, so this shouldn't be shocking to anyone, but that challenge was egregiously horrible.

If Arthur Smith, McDaniels, or any other bottom feeder team did this the national media would have a field day raking them over the coals.   

[Billl]

  On 11/6/2023 at 5:10 AM, buffblue said:

I guess you missed my use of the word clearly. There was absolutely no ambiguity whatsoever imo

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Anyone who thinks it was a clear catch should never complain about officiating again because your vision is so clouded by homerism that you have no idea what you're watching.

[BananaB]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:27 AM, dma0034 said:

McD's use of TOs are a huge problem. Taking TOs for the defense. Dumb challenges

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Seems to be the excuse every week. Can’t win the turnover battle when the D can’t generate any. Been over a month without a pick. Lol

[buffblue]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:22 PM, Billl said:

Anyone who thinks it was a clear catch should never complain about officiating again because your vision is so clouded by homerism that you have no idea what you're watching.

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Yeah, I'm not going to be lectured about officiating from a Chiefs fan. Pretty rich to dog others for questioning a call when your team has been the biggest beneficiary of gifts from referees in the post Brady era, and still you will argue otherwise 

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[NoSaint]

  On 11/6/2023 at 5:10 AM, Rocbillsfan1 said:

Actually thought it was a catch as it looked like ball bounced off his hand not the ground but yea didn’t think the refs would make the right call as they were horrible all night. 

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the problem is you have to be certain no part of the ball hit ground and that was a tough angle. I’d say catch but wouldn’t bet my house on it 

[Bob Jones]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:26 AM, buffblue said:

To me it was obvious. The ball clearly tipped upward off his fingertips, not the ground 🤷

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That ball CLEARLY BOUNCED off the ground. If it had hit ONLY his fingers, then it wouldn'thave bounced up so abruptly.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:22 PM, Billl said:

Anyone who thinks it was a clear catch should never complain about officiating again because your vision is so clouded by homerism that you have no idea what you're watching.

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Do you have a screenshot of the ball touching the ground? 

 

The pellets that we can see are pretty clearly from the back of Sherfields hand scraping the turf. The ball hits his hand, bounces up, and then Sherfield completes the catch with the ball never touching the ground. 

 

100% a catch. Unless you have an angle that I didn't see in the broadcast. 

[jlgarsh]

  On 11/6/2023 at 7:21 AM, jlgarsh said:

I'd trust a process server to call plays before Dorsey & McClown

I'd trust a process server to call plays before Dorsey & McClown

I'd trust a process server to call plays before Dorsey & McClown

I'd trust a process server to call plays before Dorsey & McDermott 

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Wow sorry my phone was glitching last night. Or I was reposting half asleep. But both these guys need to go.

[BuffaloRebound]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/McDeSe0/challenges/

 

McDermott is 7 for 29 on challenges over his career.  A dude who’s batting under .250  shouldn’t be risking a timeout there for 9 yards.