PrimeTime101 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/23/2023 at 2:18 PM, 14774 said: Pffft, Von Miller 🤦♂️ Old, washed-up, overpaid loudmouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Keep in mind JJ Watt only ever played for the Texans and Cardinals.... 2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: according to JJ Watt on Pat Macafee today if you're having players only meetings your season is over I was sort of surprised to hear him so dismissive of these and definitive about that Based on JJ Watt's history, I'm not surprised he was never part of a productive team meeting. What has he ever won, besides personal accolades? 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/23/2023 at 2:27 PM, Gregg said: Maybe they are planning to kidnap McDermott and Dorsey. Tie them up somewhere so they can't be at the stadium Thursday night and just play the game coach less. Why the hell not, 😁👍 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: according to JJ Watt on Pat Macafee today if you're having players only meetings your season is over I was sort of surprised to hear him so dismissive of these and definitive about that He's right because they'll be too many different players with too many different reasons for the struggles. Then different conflicts arise that makes the decision for this meeting a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: He's right because they'll be too many different players with too many different reasons for the struggles. Then different conflicts arise that makes the decision for this meeting a disaster. The O problem is a simple fix. Tell Josh to play his way and to ignore the no running crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: He's right because they'll be too many different players with too many different reasons for the struggles. Then different conflicts arise that makes the decision for this meeting a disaster. The players only meeting doesn't bring those things into existence. They already exist. A players meeting done right filters and condenses those issues so that they can be effectively and efficiently remedied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTown Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 JJ Watt is not wrong. McClappy lost this team in the 13 seconds. If anyone thinks our beloved Bills are going to rally the remainder of the scheduled season and playoffs, we'll I don't know what to tell you. Sure... they can win Thursday night but after that, the collapse will continue. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, JTown said: JJ Watt is not wrong. McClappy lost this team in the 13 seconds. If anyone thinks our beloved Bills are going to rally the remainder of the scheduled season and playoffs, we'll I don't know what to tell you. Sure... they can win Thursday night but after that, the collapse will continue. Ready to leave NYG already? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, JTown said: JJ Watt is not wrong. McClappy lost this team in the 13 seconds. If anyone thinks our beloved Bills are going to rally the remainder of the scheduled season and playoffs, we'll I don't know what to tell you. Sure... they can win Thursday night but after that, the collapse will continue. Yeah the way they won 13 games last season, losing the other 3 by a combined 8 points, showed how much McDermott had lost the team. Couldn't be clearer. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, JTown said: JJ Watt is not wrong. McClappy lost this team in the 13 seconds. If anyone thinks our beloved Bills are going to rally the remainder of the scheduled season and playoffs, we'll I don't know what to tell you. Sure... they can win Thursday night but after that, the collapse will continue. There was this season after where we won 13 games and a playoff game... doesn't seem like they were "lost" then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, sunshynman said: The O problem is a simple fix. Tell Josh to play his way and to ignore the no running crap. I'm starting to believe that's the direction he (they) need to go. Maybe not full blown week 1 reckless version but this castrated version doesn't work for him. Open him up and keep stressing ball security and qb sliding. 47 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: The players only meeting doesn't bring those things into existence. They already exist. A players meeting done right filters and condenses those issues so that they can be effectively and efficiently remedied. Of course they already exist. That's why you have the desperation of a called players only meeting. Then once the meeting starts different player factions will argue over different problems. It's exactly what McAfee and JJ confirmed. They both said they don't ever remember seeing a positive outcome from such meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Meetings like this can actually turn out quite beneficial. I do these with my teams every year. Working for a worldwide company, there can be a lot of change and from my chair and having so many people I'm responsible for, it's hard to get the true pulse of all of them. I typically launch the meeting and then turn it over to my team leaders. Then I work with my team leaders and work out a plan. Then we set a follow up meeting, present what we can do and explain reasons as to why other items may not be able to be changed. The key is the follow up and how it's handled. Obviously I can't fix/change everything, but in most cases, I can resolve a few of them. Getting them involved allows them to feel as part of the solution. It can be quite motivating. I would imagine it could be similar here. Some people/players may be hesitant to speak freely to who pays them but is willing to open up to their peers. It not like the entire team is a clusterf***. Slight improvement in a couple of spots could make a world of difference. Just my opinion. 🤷♂️ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTown Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, Logic said: Yeah the way they won 13 games last season, losing the other 3 by a combined 8 points, showed how much McDermott had lost the team. Couldn't be clearer. And how did last year turn out. I guess you and McClappy are satisfied. Keep drinking the kool-aid. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Of course they already exist. That's why you have the desperation of a called players only meeting. Then once the meeting starts different player factions will argue over different problems. It's exactly what McAfee and JJ confirmed. They both said they don't ever remember seeing a positive outcome from such meeting. And there are other players who say they've worked. Players that have actually won championships. You choose who's advice you want to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: The players only meeting doesn't bring those things into existence. They already exist. A players meeting done right filters and condenses those issues so that they can be effectively and efficiently remedied. I dont see an issue with such a meeting as well. In an organization, employees sometimes feel the need to commiserate and talk about issues openly without the presence of management. I have encouraged such meetings as I feel there are some things which I am better off not knowing (as with kids) as long as the outcome is positive for the employees. In this case, perhaps they wanted to air out and sort through issues between themselves. Shows leadership of Miller and Allen. Lets give them kudos instead of bashing them - Miller has earned his right to mentor and teach others. The outrage expressed in this thread is baffling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: according to JJ Watt on Pat Macafee today if you're having players only meetings your season is over I was sort of surprised to hear him so dismissive of these and definitive about that Listening to the all-22 review about the failings of the Buffalo defense against NE the season just might be over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, JTown said: And how did last year turn out. I guess you and McClappy are satisfied. Keep drinking the kool-aid. Are you saying there isn’t a difference between losing the team and not winning the SuperBowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTown Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 34 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: There was this season after where we won 13 games and a playoff game... doesn't seem like they were "lost" then. So they won 13 games this season and a playoff game? Ok... step away from the crack pipe. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I'm starting to believe that's the direction he (they) need to go. Maybe not full blown week 1 reckless version but this castrated version doesn't work for him. Open him up and keep stressing ball security and qb sliding. Of course they already exist. That's why you have the desperation of a called players only meeting. Then once the meeting starts different player factions will argue over different problems. It's exactly what McAfee and JJ confirmed. They both said they don't ever remember seeing a positive outcome from such meeting. Week 1 was still the same problem. He forced the ball instead of taking off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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