Looks like the Bills are Flying Virgin Atlantic to London

[Jauronimo]

1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

 

I'd rather have someone at their best than at their greenest, just my opinion

That way they can appreciate just how disappointing you are.

[Just Jack]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

I've never had the pleasure of climbing aboard a Virgin before.

 

I have, three times. 

[ChrisWatson#21]

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

Do we know who their flight staff is?  What snacks they are getting?  How much sugar is in the snacks?  

 

Can anyone answer?  If not, there is definitely hijinks afoot

I’m getting pizza poison Jordan flu game vibes now🙄

[sherpa]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Interesting theyre going 7pm to 12:30am on this flight. Thought they would leave a bit later and land later into the day so they could go right into it.

 

If this is the team plane, I'm not a fan of these times.

 

There are reasons for the times.

The charter will be part of the North Atlantic Track System, which has various routes which begin at a few points in the Maritime Provinces in Canada, and arrive at various points in Western Europe.

Every night these points and enroute points, called tracks, vary, based on the winds and weather that evening.

 

If you travel outside the times of the NATS, you have to use really bad altitudes, as NATS goes from 29000-41000', and that is not part of the NFL contract. 

 

The NATS operates in the evening going east from North America to Europe, and from local morning from Europe to North America, thus the times.

 

It allows a far greater density of traffic in airspace that has no radar coverage.

Everyone is assigned a specific track, altitude and mach number.

That is how flights are separated with no radar or radio coverage.

When you get about 120 miles from the UK, they get you on radar, communication is reestablished  and you fly the various normal routes to your destination.

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, Just Jack said:

 

I have, three times. 

Sounds like you missed the first two attempts.  Surprised she gave you a 3rd chance.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

There are reasons for the times.

The charter will be part of the North Atlantic Track System, which has various routes which begin at a few points in the Maritime Provinces in Canada, and arrive at various points in Western Europe.

Every night these points and enroute points, called tracks, vary, based on the winds and weather that evening.

 

If you travel outside the times of the NATS, you have to use really bad altitudes, as NATS goes from 29000-41000', and that is not part of the NFL contract. 

 

The NATS operates in the evening going east from North America to Europe, and from local morning from Europe to North America, thus the times.

 

It allows a far greater density of traffic in airspace that has no radar coverage.

Everyone is assigned a specific track, altitude and mach number.

That is how flights are separated with no radar or radio coverage.

When you get about 120 miles from the UK, they get you on radar, communication is reestablished  and you fly the various normal routes to your destination.

Always good having contributors who are 'in the know'.  Thank you.

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Can we put Tognarelli in the baggage hold? 🤔🤨

Edited October 5, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

Were you born yesterday? You can’t be that ignorant. 

Are you superstitious or something? It's not like throwing out a "what if" on a message board makes something more likely to happen in real life

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

I have, three times. 

 

Did you get it wrong the first two times? 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

30 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Below autism level awareness.

Which is not entirely unsurprising since I am off-the-charts autistic according to my ex-wife

11 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

I have, three times. 

I have twice and it was awful both times

[Augie]

Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Are you superstitious or something? It's not like throwing out a "what if" on a message board makes something more likely to happen in real life

 

I don’t like the downward emojis, so I will just go with BOO THIS! 

 

You can’t really believe that. How about if we talk about your family burning up in a house fire? That is just WRONG, and I see no defense for such a comment. 

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Going to Europe always seemed tougher on the old circadian rhythm than coming back stateside, imho. Hope Sean knows what he’s doing with little acclimation to the TZ difference. 

These guys are elite athletes, they will be fine 

[WhoTom]

10 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Are you superstitious or something? It's not like throwing out a "what if" on a message board makes something more likely to happen in real life

 

It's tasteless.

 

And your use of the term "Billsy" isn't accurate. To lose a game in a Billsy fashion means to screw up in an almost comical way. In fact, it would be comical if it wasn't our team. There's nothing comical, from anyone's perspective, about what you described.

 

Seriously, many of us have posted and nobody is defending you on this. This isn't the time to double down.

[TheCockSportif]

2 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

Comfy plane.

 

 

What is this... an airplane for ants?!  This airplane should be at least 3 times its size.  </zoolander>

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

17 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I don’t like the downward emojis, so I will just go with BOO THIS! 

 

You can’t really believe that. How about if we talk about your family burning up in a house fire? That is just WRONG, and I see no defense for such a comment. 

Hmm. Interesting to think about. I'm not offended by the comment. Apparently, I'm a psycho. Maybe I really am.

8 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

It's tasteless.

 

And your use of the term "Billsy" isn't accurate. To lose a game in a Billsy fashion means to screw up in an almost comical way. In fact, it would be comical if it wasn't our team. There's nothing comical, from anyone's perspective, about what you described.

 

Seriously, many of us have posted and nobody is defending you on this. This isn't the time to double down.

Yeah, I concede that the overwhelming consensus is what it is. It's interesting to hear the reactions and recognize how unusual I am. I'm curious how the interaction would have gone in real life.

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Hmm. Interesting to think about. I'm not offended by the comment. Apparently, I'm a psycho. Maybe I really am.

Emotional intelligence and empathy is a genuine concern. I hope you didn't torture small animals as a youth.

[Gugny]

24 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Are you superstitious or something? It's not like throwing out a "what if" on a message board makes something more likely to happen in real life

What if your balls caught on fire and a naked Roseanne Barr rushed in to save you, then proceeded to fart in your face whilst pouring gasoline on your nuts to put the fire out?

 

 

Edited October 5, 2023 by Gugny

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

What if your balls caught on fire and a naked Roseanne Barr rushed in to save you, then proceeded to fart in your face whilst pouring gasoline on your nuts to put the fire out?

 

 

This is extraordinarily troubling to me

You have crossed a line

What is wrong with you

 

🙂

3 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Emotional intelligence and empathy is a genuine concern. I hope you didn't torture small animals as a youth.

I have at times been both credited and criticized for my ability to remain completely stoic when being yelled at or when someone is having an emotional meltdown in front of me, so objectively, there might be merit to your line of thinking

[WhoTom]

7 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Yeah, I concede that the overwhelming consensus is what it is. It's interesting to hear the reactions and recognize how unusual I am. I'm curious how the interaction would have gone in real life.

 

Probably worse.

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

This plane is HUGE.  So I expect them to have the lounge bed chairs where they all just sleep.  

 

Probably have an edible or two.  Nyquil.  Dream.

 

Seat guru says there are only 44 seats in "upper class" on their 350's

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

not a very big plane, either. i am guessing they have sent their equipment ahead of time for staging and prep.

 

i had meant to look and see when they were leaving

 

Not sure what you mean by "not very big plane".  Airbus A350-1041 can hold 350-400 passengers and has  ~700,000 lb takeoff weight.

 

But, since the Bills intend to have a practice tomorrow, I would expect that they sent much of their equipment ahead on a cargo flight, so it could get unloaded, clear any customs, get it trucked to the practice facility or field, and get it unpacked and set up.

 

34 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Seat guru says there are only 44 seats in "upper class" on their 350's

 

Yeah, but this is likely a charter plane.  They can have it configured as 100% bed chair seating, and extra-long extra large ones at that.  I'm sure the Bills aren't the only sports team or other group flying across the ocean and wanting to arrive there reasonably rested.

 

EDIT: just to be clear, I was suggesting that Virgin Atlantic purchased a plane set up in this configuration or had one retrofitted (an extended process) to book for charters, not that they can take a fleet workhorse and re-fit it on a short turn around.  If it's a normal workhorse flying scheduled routes, it has whatever seats it has.

Edited October 5, 2023 by Beck Water